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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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difference is worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to flag with

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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how you doing it is tuesday may 12 2020.

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133 days into the new year

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only 233 days left lots of threes in

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we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california and i would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up

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and down east and west and north and

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south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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the game changer network and kg r a the

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i'm your jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing all right

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you know i just love going through these

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gifts

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you know that just flood in at the top

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of the show you guys are the best

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man i'm just harding all of them

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just heart heart heart heart heart man

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was that uh

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did i just see the uh

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oh maybe you guys are good you guys are

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good follow me on twitter at j

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church radio and uh trust me

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you're gonna want to go check out all

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the gifts that everybody posts at the

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front of the show some of these are

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really good

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and uh is that thin lizzy

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oh man well done brian well done who is

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hold on a minute ruby slippers

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who posted ruby slippers nobody knows

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about ruby slippers

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that was scott yeah he used to hang out

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with ruby slippers

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yeah yeah okay anyway i can go

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completely sideways on on everything

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that was just posted

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uh great show tonight great show last

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night more on that in just a minute but

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great show tonight reuben langdon is

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and his new series uh

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that we talked about last year while he

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uh conversations with ed and we're gonna

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be talking about that extra dimensionals

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we're going to be talking about that and

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so much more tonight with reuben

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uh he's such a talented not only actor

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and stunt man and stunt coordinator

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and editor and director and filmmaker

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you know all of those things

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but he's also a heck of a researcher and

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really understands uh the ufo subject

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and other things uh about our community

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that he is so committed to uh he's a

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great talent uh not only for our

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but for uh entertainment he is he's just

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and a wealth of knowledge so tonight uh

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reuben langdon is here you just kick

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it's going to be a great conversation if

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get a chance to go to one of the ufo

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and you see ruben running around you do

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he's he's really cool and and just

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just if you can jump into a conversation

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and uh i'm serious too you've got to do

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if you see reuben and i talking walk

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and interrupt and jump in the

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just walk right up hey uh uh i need to

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is here and this is going to be a great

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tomorrow night when you think about the

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uh that that is and was here on fade to

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black you know last night with the house

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uh tonight reuben langdon tomorrow night

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what oh man right well we're going to

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wrap up tomorrow night with jim

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and i'm really looking forward to this

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i'm going to throw jim under the bus a

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little bit uh he shot me a text earlier

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today

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and he said jimmy i expect you

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to ask me anything don't hold back

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on everything that i love i wrote them

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back i said banjo

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it's just you and i having a

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conversation man it's gonna be great

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it's just

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us so that's tomorrow night and you're

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not going to want to miss

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that thursday night is another fader

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and after the last a

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couple of months that we've had in the

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ufo community the last couple

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what a great night it is going to be on

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thursday open lines all night long

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you can follow me right now on twitter

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church radio and uh not only follow me

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uh which is great but say something

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comment

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engage engage do it

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you know i'll respond i will i mean if

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smart speaking of smart

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last night i don't even know the

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title of it rita and i

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frank zappa documentary

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based on kind of loosely based on flow

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and eddie you know from the turtles

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uh from the period of like 1970 to 1972

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what three hours long just an incredible

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love me some zappa love me some zap it

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the documentary is about him uh

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going through band members and how he

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and like i said that's where i get all

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my best material

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you know i steal it i steal it from red

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fern i steal it from

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dolan steal it from langdon

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i steal it from zappa i do

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i i i really really do if you ever get a

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zappa's size fits all

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joe's garage sheik your booty

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uh live in new york at the roxy and more

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i think that's what that was called

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go and listen to overnight sensations

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tinseltown rebellion

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you go and listen to any of those albums

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and you're listening

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to fade to black you're gonna go

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you're gonna go listen and if you're a

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fan already you know but

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you're gonna go listen go wow i thought

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church i thought that was a church

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original

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the stuff that is printed on the back of

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the fade to black t-shirts

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right all the jimmy-isms they're all

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stolen from frank

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but i got to admit it it's cool right if

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right it's all good right okay i feel

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i feel cleansed all right you can email

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throughout the show jimmy

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at jimmychurchradio.com we have two chat

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rooms open

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one right here on spreaker got it one at

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got it we've got everything that's going

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on over at youtube hello

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everybody on youtube facebook everybody

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right now and listening on facebook

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hello i was reading through some of the

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about the show last night what an

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incredible show more on that in just a

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very cool to see all of this interaction

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communication going and i can't be

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everywhere at all times it's impossible

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right it's impossible i got a show to do

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but thank you to everybody that is

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hanging out

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and i promise you that one uh we'll do

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maybe we should start that thursday

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we'll start that thursday like we'll do

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a youtube night where i'll have youtube

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up instead of twitter and my email

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and then the next night we'll do

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facebook or maybe we'll do facebook

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first and then youtube

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or maybe twitter uh and and the twitter

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feed and what is

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going on there with everybody maybe just

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rooms right and we'll just do that

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maybe we should do it that way every

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night of the week just just shift

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right four nights boom boom boom boom

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boom and go into rotation

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right tuesday tuesday tube night

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or tuesday twitter night right

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what rhymes with facebook

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[Laughter]

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all right all right let's get this show

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crack you got a lot to do tonight

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i want you to get your immune system

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boosted uh we all know what's going on

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right now in the world

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get your immune system boosted please go

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to getthet.com

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check out their specials page uh there

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is a reason uh that i feel great my

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family feels great

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rita feels great rita is so energized

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that i've got text coming in from her

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right now on three screens

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she can't stop herself it is because she

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feels great my

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family feels great and just go to get

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the t.com

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use the promo code fader over f-a-d-e-r

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you will get free shipping on all orders

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over fifty dollars okay they've got an

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right now on their specials page go and

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check it out

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all right man i'm digging all of the uh

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the frank zappa

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stuff you guys get zappa don't you you

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know rita said to me last night

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she goes when i was growing up you know

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uh i might have heard zappa three times

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and you know uh over in europe it was

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just a different thing and

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you know and but over here and i said oh

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you know what rita he was like that

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everywhere

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that was you had to because there was no

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zap on the radio

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i don't think they played zap on the

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radio to like valley girl

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and that doesn't even count but and

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nothing since either right well anyway

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no the only way you got zappa is if

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somebody

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slippedy the album right a bootleg

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cassette

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and you were able to check it out but

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that there was

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there was no zappa on tv there was no

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zappa

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on the radio he was he was not out there

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that was an underground

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thing everything that he did was because

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he was great not because the

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the industry supported him no that is

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not the case not the case at all but

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anyway

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frank zappa i'm glad you guys are right

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there with me

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let's get to the breaking news our

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simulcast

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of the house last night with the dark

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zone

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made the connecticut post today in an

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article by

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andrew de rosa it's very cool seriously

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you need to check it out

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fade to black got a mention and

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it's a pretty cool article now we've got

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the links up for the article

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throughout social media for you to go

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and

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read it um really quick uh rita

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and others that are listening if you

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could repost it right now in twitter

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retweet it

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so i can get it up there for everybody

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to see during the show but it's a great

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article

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and thank you to not only the heinzens

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but everybody

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over at the dark zone uh last night was

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very special more on that in just a

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minute

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and today i saw this headline

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on fox news thank you renee by the way

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that said martian rock samples could

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bring extraterrestrial viruses to earth

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right that's the headline so

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then you go and click

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it seems that foreman nasa ames director

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scott hubbard said he is concerned that

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the future rock samples

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brought back from mars will need to be

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checked and quarantined

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as will the astronauts who return from

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future visits

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quote this is quoting hubbard quote

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i have heard from some colleagues in the

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human space flight area

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that they can see how in the current

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environment

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the general public could become more

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concerned about bringing back some

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alien micro virus or contamination end

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quote

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now hubbard who now teaches aeronautics

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and astronautics at stanford university

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added that the rock samples brought back

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by the uh perseverance

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rover will have to be quarantined and

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treated as though they

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are the ebola virus still

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until proven safe now they will also he

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continued they will also need to be

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baked at high temperature

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prior to being safely examined

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now nasa will launch uh perseverance

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the unmanned rover this july

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17th along with the first helicopter

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drone

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all of this to search for

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extraterrestrial life on the red planet

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but that helicopter won't search for

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anything

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it doesn't even have a camera moving on

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a six a 19.6

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listen to me you heard me

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a 19.6 ton

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chinese rocket slammed into our planet

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that's all no more news no i'm being

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serious

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a 19.6 ton chinese rocket the long march

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5b became the heaviest orbiting thing to

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fall

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uncontrolled to earth in nearly three

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decades

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all of this according to jonathan

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mcdowell the only person that knew about

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it

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object tracker

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the last time a heavier object had an

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uncontrolled

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entry was back in 1991

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when the 43-ton salute 7

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soviet space station re-entered the

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atmosphere over

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argentina now although

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it was tracked over new york city's

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central park and i'm not making this up

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there is no mention in any press release

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anywhere today about where it finally

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crashed it's not out there seriously

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so if you know if you know anything

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if you've heard anything please contact

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me immediately

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all of the press releases on every

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website from

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every mass media outlet every one

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is a cut and paste job they all say the

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exact same thing i

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i don't know where it came down tracked

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over tracked over central park

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tracked over colorado springs tracked

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over hollywood florida and i don't even

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know how that happens right

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hollywood florida and which is directly

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south

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of central park how it made that

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turn that i don't know but nonetheless

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uh and then eventually over colorado

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springs where did it come down

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nobody knows so if you find out please

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please

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let me know cosmic debris

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very well played mark well done all

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right

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where am i at the star works ufos and

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artificial intelligence conference

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in laughlin nevada is going down

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november 5th through the 8th

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and i want you to go to starworksusa.com

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for tickets and info i'm going to be

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there rita is going to be their fade to

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black crew

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grant cameron paul heineck james fox

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alan stivelman

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sid goldberg and another great speaker a

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dozen great speakers so go and check it

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out now starworksusa.com

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today it was announced here in los

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angeles

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that the city-wide county-wide

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uh lockdown here in

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los angeles is probably going to be

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extended

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through july very interesting

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okay so that went down today we just

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moved

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the dates for disclosure fest to august

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8th

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we have two other dates available to us

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one in september one in october uh

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today to have this extension go out

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there another three months

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surprised all of us but nonetheless it

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is what it is

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and the state of california the city of

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los angeles are calling the shots here

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so to stay updated i want you to visit

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disclosurefest.org as the news breaks

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and we have information

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i'll bring it to you here and it will

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also be launched over at

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disclosurefest.org

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let's get the show cracking happy

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birthday to ramy malik

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today 39 years old star bohemian

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rhapsody and mr robot

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steve winwood today is 72

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ark of the diver traffic spencer davis

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jimi hendrix do you know he played

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keyboards on voodoo chow i bet you

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didn't know that

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that was steve winwood drummer eric

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singer today is 62

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kiss black sabbath alice cooper leda

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ford

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badland brian may gary moore

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billy squire today is 70 blows my mind

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don't say no from 1981

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an emotions in motion in 1982 to the

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biggest rock

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albums of the decade and brought arena

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rock

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front and center with hits like the

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stroke

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lonely is the night my kind of lover in

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the dark

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rock me tonight everybody wants you and

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emotions in motion

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absolutely incredible running hits for

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two years

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with billy squire um don't say no this

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is from memory

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don't quote me on don't say no but i

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believe

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that don't say no was on the billboard

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charts for like two years

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that's right incredible run our dead

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guy's birthday today is

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george carlin 1937 1937-2008 died at the

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age of 71

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considered by many to be the greatest

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stand-up comedian of all time

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he put out 14 stand-up comedy specials

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for hbo in his career

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and was the first host of saturday night

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live

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back in 1975 he was awarded the mark

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twain prize for american humor in 2008

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right after he passed away he was the

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winner of five grammy awards and his

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infamous seven

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dirty words comedy routine was first

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performed in 1972

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and was central to the 1978 u.s supreme

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court case

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fcc versus pacifica

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foundation and there you go

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um the thing is

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uh was he the greatest comedian of all

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time maybe

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probably but he was definitely

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the greatest stand-up teller

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on this day in history 1963

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bob dylan walks out on the ed sullivan

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show

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it was the appearance that never

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happened on may 12

574
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,200
1963 dylan walked off the set of the

575
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:39,840
country's highest rated variety show

576
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,400
after network sensors rejected the song

577
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:44,720
he planned on performing

578
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:50,320
here's your fader fact are you ready

579
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:53,440
a castrato

580
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:00,559
singer castrated in boyhood to retain

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00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,400
a soprano or alto voice the practice of

582
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:05,600
castration

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00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:09,279
was banned in 1903 the last official

584
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:12,799
castrato alessandro morset more

585
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:17,120
chessy right retired from the sistine

586
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,559
chapel in 1913 though

587
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:23,520
some historians suspect that dominico

588
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:24,880
mancini

589
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:29,200
who sang in the papal choir until 1959

590
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:33,039
was a secret castrato

591
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,559
and that is your fader fact did you just

592
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go

593
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very special guest reuben langdon

594
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,320
and uh it's like this i'm going to

595
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get all of this in in five minutes all

596
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right so i'm gonna drink this river moon

597
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:52,960
coffee i'm gonna

598
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if you tuned in last night you were

599
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taking part in a pretty historic show

600
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:02,640
for a lot of reasons

601
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first we did a simulcast with the dark

602
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,760
zone

603
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,760
in which i got to host their live stream

604
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:08,960
called the house

605
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:11,760
now although simulcasts have happened

606
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,640
many times

607
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,200
with different types of events it's

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00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:17,279
actually quite rare when two or more

609
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different

610
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,000
networks can come together and agree to

611
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:22,240
it but the dark zone was with us from

612
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the very beginning

613
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,760
and it shows everyone how cool our

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00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:27,520
community really is

615
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,919
second the opportunity for the fader

616
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,840
knots to meet the heinzens

617
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:33,840
the current owners of the conjuring

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00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:36,400
house and even take a virtual tour

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through the home

620
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,679
whether it was with the lines of the

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live stream

622
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:43,760
or on fade to black it was a very unique

623
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,760
and singular experience and one that i

624
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:47,840
really enjoyed doing

625
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,799
i learned so much last night from from

626
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the heinzens

627
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,279
and third although it would have been

628
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:57,760
cool to have the football and their

629
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,840
broom fall over and if you

630
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,440
listened and watched last night you know

631
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:03,440
what i'm talking about you know live on

632
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,080
the stream

633
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,880
and on fade to black something else

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00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:08,880
happened last night

635
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:11,520
when the dad corey revealed to us that

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he had found a

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00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:16,720
box in the basement that had a drawing

638
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:20,720
in it of a person who had a broken neck

639
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,240
with their tongue sticking out so

640
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,760
this was right before the commercial

641
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,000
break but when we returned

642
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:31,440
i went back to corey and and asked about

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00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,159
the box

644
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,960
and the drawing and i had asked him if

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00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,559
he could take us down to the basement so

646
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:38,000
we could check it out

647
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:39,600
now as we made our way down to the

648
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:42,320
basement i had no idea how significant

649
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:42,880
this

650
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:46,400
box would turn out to be the drawing

651
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:50,240
wasn't on a piece of paper no

652
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:53,760
which is what i was expecting but

653
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:57,360
a drawing on the box itself

654
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,400
inside now of course i

655
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,039
wish everyone listening on fade to black

656
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:04,799
could have seen what i had seen on the

657
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:05,600
screen

658
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,360
but for those watching on the live

659
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:09,600
stream they know why i had

660
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,919
the reaction to the sketch like i did

661
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,440
now i'm going to reach out to the dark

662
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,279
zone and the heinzens to see if we can

663
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,919
get screen shots of that very moment

664
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,440
because in a small way

665
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,760
it was history being made should i have

666
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,600
grabbed my phone and snapped a picture

667
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,360
of my monitor at that moment

668
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,240
sure maybe but just like anything else

669
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:31,679
that happened so fast

670
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:34,320
i was caught up in what was going down

671
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:35,279
and yes

672
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,720
it was pretty amazing to see now i think

673
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,320
that we can expect a lot more in the

674
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:42,559
future about this drawing inside the box

675
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,279
because it

676
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:46,080
is very important we have to ask who

677
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:46,880
drew it

678
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:49,919
when was it drawn why was it drawn

679
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,799
the box itself looked quite old uh was

680
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,480
it there before the parents

681
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:57,120
lived there does andrea perrin know

682
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,240
anything about it

683
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,320
right there were also more drawings by

684
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:02,320
the way and i looked at them briefly

685
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:05,200
when the camera was moving around in in

686
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,080
the inside

687
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:08,000
but my attention was focusing on the

688
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,440
broken neck lady

689
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:12,000
now i say lady because the figure looked

690
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,640
like

691
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,559
it was wearing a dress but i'll leave

692
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,240
this to others to analyze

693
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:19,039
but its neck was definitely broken the

694
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,399
person was dead

695
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:23,440
and the tongue was hanging out

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00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,799
it was uh most certainly drawn by a

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00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:27,919
child

698
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:30,240
and we have to ask ourselves what did

699
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,039
this child

700
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:34,000
witness what was going on in that house

701
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:35,120
was it a dream

702
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,320
was it real and one last note the box

703
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:39,679
appeared to be a large

704
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,039
toy box it was about four feet long

705
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,279
like two feet high foot and a half tall

706
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,360
foot and a half deep two feet deep

707
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,840
it was painted white right it was

708
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,679
covered in dirt on the outside

709
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,440
and it's top and bottom we're missing

710
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,039
and i don't know if there was a lid on a

711
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:57,279
hinge that wasn't there i don't know

712
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:59,200
maybe you didn't have a hinge lid you

713
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,559
know whatever but

714
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,360
inside it was pretty clean and the

715
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:04,799
drawings themselves

716
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:08,000
are very clear and legible the broken

717
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,399
neck

718
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,399
figure in the middle of the other images

719
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,720
that were surrounding it uh were very

720
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:14,640
interesting and i gotta say

721
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,919
it was pretty shocking now today when i

722
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:20,159
read the article by andrew de rosa

723
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,679
of the connecticut post i was happy to

724
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,520
see that i wasn't the only one who was

725
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,120
witnessing something pretty

726
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,000
uh extraordinary it was uh pretty

727
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,799
amazing and quoting andrew directly from

728
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:34,399
his article today

729
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,520
he said the highlight of the

730
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:40,399
almost two hour interview came when the

731
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,440
family told

732
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:44,080
church about a box that they had found

733
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,120
in the basement

734
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,440
which contained a child's drawing of a

735
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,360
hanging woman with a bent

736
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:52,399
neck and her tongue hanging out when the

737
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:54,960
family showed the drawing to the camera

738
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,520
chills went down my spine again as i

739
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:00,159
stared into the eyes of what is perhaps

740
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,440
a child's drawing of a demonic entity

741
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,000
end quote now yeah i think we can all

742
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,679
agree with andrew

743
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:09,600
everyone had chills going down their

744
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:11,440
spines pretty much all the way to the

745
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,399
floor

746
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:15,039
this is why live radio and today's

747
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:15,840
version

748
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:18,799
live streaming is so cool you never know

749
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,919
what may happen

750
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,640
and most of the time nothing does but

751
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:24,799
it's the anticipation

752
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,840
that makes things so compelling and when

753
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,480
it does

754
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:30,960
right when it goes down like last night

755
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:32,880
it's bleep in history

756
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,240
if that drawing is any indication about

757
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,960
what is happening at the house the

758
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:41,120
heinzens have one heck of a paranormal

759
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,799
investigation in front of them for years

760
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:43,840
to come

761
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:47,679
just ask andrea perrin this is fade to

762
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,320
black i

763
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,080
am your host jimmy church tonight our

764
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:52,320
guest reuben langdon

765
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,600
and it's going to be one of those

766
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,760
conversations so you stay right there

767
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:57,760
i am your host jimmy church this is fade

768
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:00,000
to black on the game changer network

769
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:03,919
and kgra the planet you can follow me on

770
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,399
twitter

771
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:07,360
at jay church radio you can follow ruben

772
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:07,840
at

773
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,720
well reuben langdon right there on

774
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:12,240
twitter we've got everything up in the

775
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,200
twitter feed

776
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:16,399
on the game changer network and kgra

777
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:19,090
the planet stay with us we'll be right

778
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:35,110
back

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00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:41,350
fade to black cardboard jimmy church

780
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:44,559
tonight reuben langdon is here

781
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,120
conversations with uh with ed

782
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:51,200
extra dimensionals actually i like

783
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,159
saying that

784
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:53,919
tomorrow night jim pennison joins us

785
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,840
we're going to be going through

786
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:58,320
randall shim and all of the latest news

787
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,000
that is going around

788
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,399
thursday nights another fader nights

789
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:04,559
open lines all night long tonight it's

790
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:05,760
all about

791
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,039
reuben langdon he joins us is it

792
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:11,360
to discuss his new series interviews

793
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,240
with ed

794
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:14,880
each episode focuses on one particular

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00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:15,600
race or

796
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:18,480
collective of beings and or actual

797
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,600
beings

798
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,919
who channels through a particular person

799
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:22,960
or persons

800
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,760
now at a young age reuben began his

801
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,480
career in japan as a series regular

802
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:31,039
acting in the japanese superhero tv

803
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:31,760
series

804
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,880
b fighter kabuto he later relocated to

805
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,720
hong kong to work alongside

806
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,799
the most recognizable names in action

807
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,480
including jackie chan

808
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:43,200
and sama eventually he made his way to

809
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,760
hollywood

810
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,679
and worked regularly as an actor and

811
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:48,000
stunt man on the international hit show

812
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,120
the power rangers

813
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:50,960
he also made appearances in several

814
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,960
blockbuster films including charlie's

815
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,720
angels spider-man 2

816
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:57,279
ant-man and pirates of the caribbean at

817
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,159
world's end

818
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:00,000
and he has been the stunt coordinator

819
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,200
and or stuntman

820
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,720
in the office dexter csi miami and many

821
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:05,760
other film tv

822
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:09,519
and video game projects in april and may

823
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:12,880
of 2013 rubin co-produced

824
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,840
the citizens hearing on disclosure it

825
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:18,080
included 40 witnesses from 10 different

826
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,960
countries

827
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:21,120
testifying in front of six former

828
00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,080
members of

829
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,640
the united states congress on the fact

830
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,159
that the world is being

831
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:29,679
engaged by extraterrestrials his website

832
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,320
links are

833
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:32,559
right there over at jimmychurchradio.com

834
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:33,919
and i would like to welcome back to the

835
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:34,640
show

836
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:37,039
reuben langdon reuben good evening man

837
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,960
how are you good evening jimmy

838
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,559
how's it going hey you know it's going

839
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:42,559
good check this out reuben

840
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,799
uh uh not to reveal exactly what we

841
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,720
talked about today maybe i will maybe

842
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,320
i'll do it because it was actually

843
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:51,279
pretty funny

844
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:54,399
but this tweet it just came uh up in

845
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:55,840
twitter can i read it

846
00:34:03,269 --> 00:33:59,120
you ready sure it's uh it's

847
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:03,279
it says jimmy don't do my boy wrong like

848
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:04,000
that

849
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:07,279
reuben langdon also did devil may cry

850
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,480
dante yes

851
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,839
and you know it's something if we get

852
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:13,839
that one yeah

853
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:16,560
and uh can i tell everybody what i said

854
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:17,280
to you today

855
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:21,440
is that cool yeah yeah sure okay i i go

856
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,839
this is this is a conversation between

857
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,040
reuben and jimmy

858
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:26,320
reuben what's up nothing jimmy what's

859
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,079
going on i said hey reuben

860
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:31,280
just tell me right now i want the truth

861
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:33,919
do you ever run around the house wearing

862
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:41,750
and my answer was um

863
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:43,800
if i had one maybe i don't know

864
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:45,520
[Laughter]

865
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:48,720
it was just so funny and and and and to

866
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:49,919
see this tweet pop

867
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:53,440
up um the we're gonna get to all we have

868
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,240
so much to

869
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,280
discuss tonight uh uh reuben

870
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,040
and i don't know what that is is that

871
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:01,440
you or me that must have been you i i

872
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,400
don't know

873
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,400
i just lost you for a second there okay

874
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:06,320
that was you then okay that wasn't me

875
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,359
that was bizarre

876
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:10,160
okay um we've got a lot to talk about

877
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:10,640
tonight

878
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,640
and there's a lot of things going on and

879
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,160
the new series

880
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,720
uh right now is is a huge hit for you

881
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:18,160
and congratulations

882
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:21,119
uh conversations with that thank you but

883
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,079
yeah it's actually called

884
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:24,000
interviews with it yeah interviews with

885
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:25,839
that conference how many times have i

886
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,560
am having conversations yes you are

887
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:30,640
interviews with that um

888
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:33,760
is that your uh

889
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:37,119
your career okay your career

890
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:40,400
you're you're working one click on your

891
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,440
imdb

892
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:43,680
page which everybody in hollywood does

893
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:45,839
to see who's working and who's not

894
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,960
right you're working right you are a

895
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,079
busy guy

896
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,680
you've got stuff going yeah yeah

897
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,000
you've got things going on uh not only

898
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:58,079
in the video game world but in the tv

899
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:01,760
world and stuff you are working here in

900
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:03,119
hollywood

901
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:05,839
you don't have to do what you're doing

902
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,680
right for this community

903
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,000
the the your new tv series and the

904
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:12,560
research and the contributions

905
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:15,359
that you make to all of us here you

906
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,400
don't have to do it

907
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:19,920
why do you do it reuben

908
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:22,000
well actually it's because i can because

909
00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:23,359
of the career because i

910
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:26,079
i am a working man in hollywood which

911
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:27,760
means you're only really working a few

912
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:28,800
days a month

913
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:32,640
but still that's enough to allocate

914
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:35,920
uh time so i can do this other work

915
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:39,520
so i figured well i've been blessed with

916
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,000
this

917
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:43,359
awesome uh career to

918
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,079
you know only have to work a few a few

919
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,160
days a month to pay the bills

920
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:50,480
i have all this extra time to pursue

921
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,359
other projects

922
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:54,320
and and follow my passion and you know

923
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,440
make a series like

924
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,680
interview with ed uh it's i'm truly

925
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,880
blessed

926
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:00,880
what is it what is it about this

927
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:04,400
community that draws you to it because

928
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:07,760
uh when we look at uh you know the dates

929
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,640
of

930
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,680
uh the citizens hearing we're talking

931
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,720
about

932
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,960
that that's quite a while ago was there

933
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:17,119
already an interest in

934
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:20,320
ufology and contact leading up to

935
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:23,599
uh 2013

936
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,359
yeah actually in 2007 i had my sighting

937
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,040
which then got me on this path

938
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:30,800
of trying to figure out what what

939
00:37:34,950 --> 00:37:33,839
happened uh which led to going to one of

940
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:34,960
stephen greer's

941
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,040
events in arizona one of his ce5 events

942
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,520
and three nights doing that seeing the

943
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,800
the lights in the sky

944
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,720
being absolutely convinced that

945
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,800
something else was was going on i needed

946
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:47,839
to go deeper

947
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,280
you know that were unexplained in

948
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:54,079
things that were probably runny you know

949
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,560
flying

950
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,880
thousands of miles across the sky

951
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:58,400
thousands of miles an hour they were

952
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,720
just

953
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,720
so fast and there was like two lights

954
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:02,160
one night

955
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:05,599
uh flashes and quick um

956
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:08,320
like green lights uh one of the nights i

957
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,280
forget

958
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,000
i just remember three nights i it kind

959
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,520
of sealed the deal for me i'd already

960
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,040
done a lot of research and i had my

961
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,040
other siding

962
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:20,000
and it sort of put me on this this uh

963
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:21,280
hyper

964
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,320
focused uh road track

965
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,560
of okay let's let's figure this stuff

966
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:28,079
out we gotta we gotta know what's going

967
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:28,880
on here

968
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:32,079
um and then shortly after one thing led

969
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,520
to another i was i was running

970
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,400
uh i had a visual effects company in

971
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,560
marina del rey at the time

972
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,560
and i had this big space that i opened

973
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:41,680
up once a month

974
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:45,040
and we had the et meetup groups and

975
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:48,640
everybody from uh richard dolan to who

976
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:52,240
uh linda barbara lamb we had uh yvonne

977
00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:53,200
smith

978
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,119
you know the usual suspects we had them

979
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,280
all come in as guests

980
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:00,400
and uh talk about their experiences

981
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,390
and let me jump in really quick well i

982
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,720
believe i was there

983
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:10,560
was you show up at one of those yeah

984
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:13,200
yeah it was uh it was uh it was a sound

985
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,240
stage in the back of another

986
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,720
uh like a shopping mall off of lincoln

987
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,240
right

988
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,240
yeah yep that was my office that was

989
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:24,640
yours that place was gorgeous man

990
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,520
it was big yes

991
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,320
yeah i was there for uh who was there

992
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:34,320
that night i think it was yvonne smith

993
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:37,520
actually and uh and

994
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,960
uh dr lear spoke yes

995
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:43,280
that's right dr lew was it regular he's

996
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:46,720
awesome he died right after that

997
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:50,640
yeah yeah shortly uh we we did that for

998
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:54,400
how many years three years and then uh

999
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:57,200
then i packed up and moved across the

1000
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,839
country

1001
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,359
over to atlanta because that's where the

1002
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,079
film business was sort of taken off

1003
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,560
and that's what was fully paying the

1004
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:06,319
bills back then so

1005
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,319
um while in atlanta is when or just

1006
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,680
before i moved to atlanta right after

1007
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,520
the citizen hearing i started filming

1008
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,040
for my series

1009
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:18,000
and it was there that i spent the time

1010
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,359
and editing and really sort of

1011
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,960
solidified the idea

1012
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:23,680
but i had been exposed to this world

1013
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:24,240
really

1014
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,119
for for a decade now for well more than

1015
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,960
that 2007 but

1016
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:31,200
really really hardcore researching for

1017
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,560
the past 10 years

1018
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,560
and you also worked on star trek

1019
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,640
continues

1020
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,640
i did i worked at star trek it did use

1021
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,760
uh worked on

1022
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:41,760
i was a stunt coordinator and i i played

1023
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:49,030
and it's so funny how uh

1024
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,560
how small the circle is in hollywood

1025
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,640
um because we've had everybody on star

1026
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:56,400
trek continues on the show

1027
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:59,680
i've also had them over at uh coast to

1028
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:00,400
coast is

1029
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:03,520
as well but that being said uh

1030
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:06,880
the interest of of what is going on in

1031
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:07,920
this community

1032
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,560
is also happening with everybody else

1033
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:12,160
including you and your friends

1034
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,560
isn't it it is it's it's funny uh when i

1035
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:19,680
when i first met vic uh we we

1036
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:22,880
would go i'm often at the same sort of

1037
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,760
uh anime comic book conventions that he

1038
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:26,880
goes to

1039
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,400
we frequent that circle and i had just

1040
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,400
come out of the citizen hearing

1041
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:35,280
and uh doing it and i had a dvd box set

1042
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:36,560
and i gave it to vic

1043
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:39,280
and he said um reuben you got to come

1044
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:40,880
hang out with me we're doing star trek

1045
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,599
i'm like what

1046
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,960
what are you talking about i had no idea

1047
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,800
what it was he's like yeah come

1048
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,720
come come help me do this thing and i'm

1049
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,640
like oh cool so it was

1050
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,960
it was interesting the synchronicities

1051
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,760
of the timing

1052
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,000
and and i'm a huge star trek fan i love

1053
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,440
the show uh

1054
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,520
you know from watching it watching the

1055
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,440
old 60s version with my mom when i was

1056
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,119
little

1057
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,760
on our black and white tv set to you

1058
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:05,280
know the new generation

1059
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,720
to i'm a big fan of discovery i love

1060
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,960
i love they they brought back a lot of

1061
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:12,560
especially season two brought back a lot

1062
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:13,280
of the old

1063
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:17,040
feeling and energy of of the original

1064
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:20,240
yeah vic yeah vic

1065
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,079
and the whole crew over there at star

1066
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,119
trek continues their dedication

1067
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,400
to the original series

1068
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,599
and its feel and its vibe and you know

1069
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:33,200
the technical stuff the look and the

1070
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:34,880
music and the editing

1071
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:38,400
uh is is second to none it is absolutely

1072
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:41,599
uh perfect and perfection based but

1073
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,839
it's uh vic doing captain kirk

1074
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,839
which has got to be that's got to be one

1075
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,760
of the most difficult roles anybody

1076
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,880
could handle

1077
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,800
uh first off you're gonna have people

1078
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:54,319
come at you you're gonna have

1079
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:57,440
extreme criticism and the second thing

1080
00:43:02,870 --> 00:42:59,200
is you've got a choice

1081
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,880
do you do captain kirk or do you do the

1082
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,640
vibe of captain kirk

1083
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,520
and that's what he conquered he's got

1084
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:09,280
the vibe of kirk he did

1085
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,910
it was amazing and to to be a part of i

1086
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,599
feel you know in a sense that's

1087
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,280
that's going down in history it's a part

1088
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,280
of you know obviously not

1089
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:23,440
you know like the first one but in a

1090
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,319
sense

1091
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,880
uh the fans certainly love it i had a

1092
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:28,480
great time being a part of it made so

1093
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,599
many good friends

1094
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,920
um we still hang out and talk to each

1095
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:33,200
other now so

1096
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:36,079
it was a it was a good it was a good uh

1097
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:37,040
little run there

1098
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:40,000
yeah yeah you get so immersed into it

1099
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,560
after

1100
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,480
you know you get like 15 minutes into

1101
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,240
the first episode

1102
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:47,359
and then you forget that yeah yeah yeah

1103
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:47,680
yeah

1104
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,800
you are in it now let's uh let's

1105
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,480
continue this conversation

1106
00:44:02,230 --> 00:43:59,760
actually because when the

1107
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,240
the citizen hearing and it's hard to

1108
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,599
comprehend

1109
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,520
that we are talking now seven almost

1110
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,720
eight years ago

1111
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:09,760
right okay yeah and how

1112
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:13,520
far things have come since then

1113
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:17,520
for you reuben have they come far enough

1114
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,839
or did you think that maybe we would be

1115
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:22,160
further uh

1116
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,150
that's an interesting question because

1117
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,920
when i you know when i was

1118
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,920
in it when we were producing the citizen

1119
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:33,839
hearing in washington dc

1120
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:36,800
doing the you know in front of congr

1121
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:38,319
former members of congress

1122
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:42,720
um and talking about the subject

1123
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,319
and having uh some publication

1124
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,640
not really you know not a whole lot the

1125
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,400
new york times gave us like the back

1126
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:52,880
page and it was like the first time in

1127
00:44:57,790 --> 00:44:55,520
in the times history that they even

1128
00:45:00,430 --> 00:44:57,800
wrote about the subject in a positive

1129
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,440
semi-positive manner uh it wasn't until

1130
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,920
2017

1131
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,520
until they did the full the full you

1132
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:05,119
know front page deal

1133
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,800
um so at that time

1134
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,400
i thought this is it we're going to have

1135
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,160
disclosure this is going to be a big

1136
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,960
thing and then

1137
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,520
and then when that sort of finished it

1138
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:16,960
was it was like what

1139
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,560
how come we just we just had five days

1140
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:22,560
at the national press club

1141
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,119
former members of congress it was

1142
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:27,119
incredible testimony

1143
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:28,720
what's going on how come nobody's

1144
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,119
talking about this how come the media

1145
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:34,240
basically shunned us um what did we do

1146
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,040
wrong what did i

1147
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,200
what's what's the deal here this is the

1148
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:39,200
biggest news

1149
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,359
ever and um then i soon realized

1150
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,480
the the paradigm the

1151
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:49,359
truth embargo uh and the paradigm that

1152
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,319
the media had

1153
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,960
has to play in all of this and even

1154
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:54,240
though it was brought up during the

1155
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,520
hearings dolan and

1156
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,839
greer and many others danny sheen they

1157
00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,280
all talked about the

1158
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,560
media embargo but i didn't fully grasp

1159
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:03,920
it at the time

1160
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:07,440
so it was it took me sort of going into

1161
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,160
recluse

1162
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,160
so shortly after the hearings you know

1163
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:12,960
moving to atlanta i sort of

1164
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,040
gave up the studio uh left it with my

1165
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,040
partners and i was i was kind of like

1166
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:19,520
trying to literally run away from from

1167
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:20,240
hollywood

1168
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:22,480
run away from l.a and sort of start this

1169
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:23,520
new life

1170
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:27,200
um i was working on the film ant-man

1171
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,359
and uh then it uh

1172
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,760
then i started going deeper with the

1173
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:35,200
with these interviews

1174
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,880
and talking to the channels talking to

1175
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:40,640
the the people who channel these

1176
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,319
entities and asking these

1177
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:44,319
these bigger deeper questions to try to

1178
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,839
really understand the construct of

1179
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,040
reality

1180
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:49,200
and understand what's going on here and

1181
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,319
i got a

1182
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,359
a better understanding so it took so

1183
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,520
at that time in 2013 i had some

1184
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:57,680
expectations they were sort of blown out

1185
00:47:01,589 --> 00:47:00,160
and then then since then i've been doing

1186
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:01,599
this inner work

1187
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:05,119
uh more of a spiritual path of uh

1188
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,319
while simultaneously trying to uh

1189
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,480
usher along disclosure but doing it in a

1190
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:11,839
different way sort of

1191
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,920
aikidoing the the usual um

1192
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,920
you know evidence-based material and

1193
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,200
sort of looking for

1194
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:21,760
a different avenue and through these

1195
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,839
interviews i

1196
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:25,599
found a a much

1197
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:29,280
deeper broader spectrum

1198
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,319
visual understanding like

1199
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:35,040
i say visual but sort of expanding my

1200
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:36,319
vision

1201
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,839
and understanding things in a

1202
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:39,839
multi-dimensional way really

1203
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:43,839
um and then i was able to

1204
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:47,359
not be upset so where we are right now

1205
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,480
doesn't surprise me um

1206
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,359
it's exciting because we're still

1207
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:55,040
getting the trickles

1208
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,400
you know anybody who's been in this

1209
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,240
knows that there's much much more than

1210
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:59,920
just the to the starter academy and

1211
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,400
three

1212
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,079
videos from the pentagon we know there's

1213
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,680
way more right you know

1214
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,040
and all the guests you've had on your

1215
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:06,880
show so

1216
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,160
um is it happening fast enough

1217
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,640
it's actually uh from my understanding

1218
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,680
right now it's

1219
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,920
we're right on time this is exactly how

1220
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:16,800
it's supposed to

1221
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:21,760
play out now there is probably

1222
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:24,880
nothing more vicious than

1223
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,319
hollywood and trying to get a gig right

1224
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,400
and you know what i'm talking about it

1225
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,640
is oh yeah it is competitive

1226
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:34,640
it doesn't matter if you're a stunt

1227
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:35,839
coordinator

1228
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:39,520
uh a director a second director right

1229
00:48:46,829 --> 00:48:43,359
production makeup uh uh

1230
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:46,839
costumes uh camera lighting

1231
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,319
audio and all of this

1232
00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:53,760
everybody wants your gig it is

1233
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,960
vicious gnarly nasty you're swimming

1234
00:49:03,430 --> 00:48:57,839
with sharks

1235
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:03,440
no question about it and as as

1236
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,119
has warmed up to this as you were

1237
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,160
getting into the field of ufology you

1238
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,839
probably thought it was a safer

1239
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:13,200
environment

1240
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,910
a little bit safer but yeah i know there

1241
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:21,839
is uh there's a lot of opinions

1242
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:25,920
there's a lot of um uh

1243
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,720
yeah there's a lot of uh like our good

1244
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,240
friend adam apollo said

1245
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,960
it's a line a minefield of

1246
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,480
disinformation

1247
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,440
and um you have to navigate it carefully

1248
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:38,800
you have to

1249
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:41,200
and after the citizens hearing because

1250
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:41,839
now you

1251
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,079
credible

1252
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,760
witnesses uh from all parts of

1253
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:52,960
society in the military and and so forth

1254
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:53,280
uh

1255
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:56,880
forward they come forward you've got

1256
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:59,920
six former members of congress sitting

1257
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:00,480
there

1258
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:03,920
as judge and jury right to absorb

1259
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,760
all of this you've got witnesses from 10

1260
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:09,520
different countries

1261
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,800
and you would have thought that that was

1262
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:13,839
enough

1263
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,880
it's after the citizens hearing it's

1264
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,480
it's everything else that ends up

1265
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,319
happening to you right where you think

1266
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,599
that

1267
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:23,280
you know if i'm understanding you

1268
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,040
correctly that this is it

1269
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,000
this should be it and instead it was it

1270
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:29,200
was the opposite

1271
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:30,640
and there is a lot of fighting and

1272
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:32,319
there's a lot of backstabbing and

1273
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:33,680
finger-pointing and

1274
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,680
and opinions including critics of

1275
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,480
the citizens hearing on disclosure when

1276
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,319
all you did was put your best foot

1277
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,559
forward right

1278
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,640
oh yeah yeah i put everything i had into

1279
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:48,640
that that was uh

1280
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:52,000
that was quite the experience i have no

1281
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:53,920
regrets i'm so glad i went through it

1282
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,520
but uh

1283
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,400
yeah there's there's still um i mean

1284
00:51:01,589 --> 00:50:59,520
overall though

1285
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,599
you know the citizen hearing i think to

1286
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:02,960
date is

1287
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,160
still this this monumental event

1288
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:08,800
for the community right um and in the

1289
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,680
general

1290
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:11,839
populace most people have no idea what

1291
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:12,880
it is and

1292
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:15,520
don't really uh even if you point it out

1293
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,960
they're like wow this this is pretty

1294
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:17,920
impressive this is

1295
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,240
this happened i'm like yeah how come

1296
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:22,000
nobody knows about it well that's

1297
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,599
unfortunately that's that's the truth

1298
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:25,440
embargo that we have on

1299
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,359
the media but the uh

1300
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:31,680
the awareness now you know seven years

1301
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:32,559
later

1302
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,400
is is now more there than ever

1303
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,960
so maybe now is the time maybe now is

1304
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:41,520
the time to do a citizen hearing or to

1305
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,480
uh to re-release the citizen hearing

1306
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:46,079
possibly

1307
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:49,920
so i think time will tell how is your

1308
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,480
how has your overall view

1309
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,800
changed or has it stayed the same when

1310
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:56,240
you go from

1311
00:52:02,870 --> 00:51:59,440
your original sighting and then to greer

1312
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,880
and a ce5 protocol setting through the

1313
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,240
citizens hearing and

1314
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:06,480
and collecting this data and doing your

1315
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:07,520
research

1316
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:11,440
to where you are today how has your view

1317
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:14,160
changed on the subject of what ets even

1318
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:14,559
could

1319
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400
be oh man it's gone it's one

1320
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,240
you know from a to z and then you know

1321
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:22,960
many other alphabets that we don't have

1322
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:26,000
i uh you know danny sheehan in the

1323
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:27,280
citizen herring actually

1324
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:30,319
says it the best and and for many people

1325
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:31,839
who are into this

1326
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,559
this information uh for me the the et

1327
00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:39,200
the e.t pill so to say was was the red

1328
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:39,920
pill

1329
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,599
was my gateway drug to what is reality

1330
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,599
right to really sort of shake it up you

1331
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,800
go along in life

1332
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:48,720
and you you sort of see things you see

1333
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:50,240
the world through a lens we're told at

1334
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,280
school this is

1335
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:54,480
gotta get a job you gotta go do this um

1336
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,119
learn your math all that good stuff and

1337
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,520
you kind of just go along you know i had

1338
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:03,280
my passion with action films

1339
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:06,800
i i trained hard i worked with the best

1340
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,680
um great time no regrets whatsoever and

1341
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:10,480
i've had an

1342
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:14,960
amazing amazing life and amazing people

1343
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:17,920
to work with and experience things but

1344
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,400
the

1345
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:21,599
ep pill to me is really it

1346
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:24,880
it's reshaped my entire world view

1347
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:27,200
of how i see the world i see the world

1348
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,240
through a different lens

1349
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,960
and that that it's constantly evolving

1350
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,400
from the lens i saw it

1351
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,160
just knowing that we're not alone in the

1352
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:36,400
universe or even on this planet

1353
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,000
in 2013 to now

1354
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,200
having direct conversations in direct

1355
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,720
conversations through interviews with ed

1356
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:46,400
but now having my own

1357
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:50,640
telepathic communications with entities

1358
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:54,640
uh in consciousnesses that

1359
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:57,200
i can con connected or directly with so

1360
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:58,640
i've went from you know

1361
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:01,440
action stunt man who really didn't have

1362
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:03,760
a spiritual bone in his body

1363
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,280
to you know meditating to uh

1364
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:09,599
qigong and now to telepathic

1365
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,800
communication

1366
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:13,839
with extraterrestrials it's it's been a

1367
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:15,119
gradual

1368
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,160
um experience i just you know many

1369
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,599
people have their

1370
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:22,079
aha moments i guess just having seen

1371
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:23,599
those things in the sky was my aha

1372
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,319
moment

1373
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,240
but i've learned to develop these skills

1374
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:28,480
i've learned that anybody

1375
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,559
can become telepathic that anybody can

1376
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:33,119
have

1377
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:36,720
contact if they seek it out and that

1378
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:40,960
has been i guess the biggest uh you know

1379
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,280
the the widest gamut and then seeing the

1380
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,119
world through a different lens

1381
00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:47,200
as far as the political state of things

1382
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,440
the economical state of things

1383
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:51,520
the geopolitical like all of it like you

1384
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:52,559
understand

1385
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:55,119
why we're in the situation we're in if

1386
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:55,760
you do

1387
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,640
research in in the ufo arena you you

1388
00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,799
really understand the bigger picture of

1389
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,480
i think all of it you don't even have to

1390
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:04,720
go into the politics

1391
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:06,319
and stuff because you can sort of use

1392
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,760
that same model

1393
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,520
of the truth embargo why is it being

1394
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:10,799
secret what is this

1395
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:13,520
press why is the press not talking more

1396
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:14,960
about this

1397
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:17,760
and just uncovering that ufo aspect you

1398
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,160
can

1399
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:20,720
sort of apply that on a bigger scale the

1400
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,000
micro and the macro

1401
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,480
to understand oh this is how the entire

1402
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:26,079
world works with international banking

1403
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,200
and all that goofiness

1404
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:29,839
the pandemic and all that fun stuff is

1405
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:31,599
it a combination

1406
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,520
of the original ufo hypothesis

1407
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,359
you know the nuts and bolts the flying

1408
00:55:42,670 --> 00:55:39,280
sauce of this silver disk

1409
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:42,680
you know little green men and an

1410
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:46,079
inter-dimensional entangled

1411
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:49,520
aspect of it that may be

1412
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,000
uh you know a parallel world multiverse

1413
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:57,599
situation where it's not necessarily uh

1414
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,480
a nuts and bolts craft with an engine

1415
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:03,040
you know uh traveling the stars

1416
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,880
is it just a combination of the both

1417
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:08,880
i well i think it is a combination but i

1418
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:11,280
think it's also our language

1419
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:13,839
and we as a human race as we are

1420
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:14,799
evolving

1421
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:17,200
so is our language and our understanding

1422
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,000
of what is

1423
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,880
what is reality so therefore this idea

1424
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,839
of ets

1425
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,920
evolves with us evolves with our

1426
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,200
language

1427
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,359
and i think they always were extra

1428
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,119
dimensional we just didn't have the

1429
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:30,799
terminology or understanding

1430
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:31,920
collectively

1431
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,400
as a species to fully understand that

1432
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,440
um so you have

1433
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:41,200
even the earlier counts of these beings

1434
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:44,319
coming down they point to the stars

1435
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,680
because that's the the the you know the

1436
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,160
the closest rendition or the closest

1437
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:52,079
thing that we understand at that time

1438
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,520
now that we understand

1439
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,680
you know nikola the famous nikola tesla

1440
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:57,599
quote uh when you think in

1441
00:57:01,109 --> 00:57:00,720
terms of what is reality think in terms

1442
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:01,119
of

1443
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:02,960
energy frequency and vibration and if we

1444
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:04,240
know everything is a vibrational

1445
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:05,200
frequency

1446
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:06,559
which we've heard a million times but

1447
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:09,119
when you really understand that

1448
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:11,040
and the et's are pointing you know a

1449
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,559
plague and being disappointing to the

1450
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,920
pleiades star system

1451
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,760
they're simply doing that as a reference

1452
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:17,520
point because it holds the

1453
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:21,040
similar or same vibrational frequency

1454
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,160
as the archetypal energy

1455
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:26,160
of the pleiades that we have through our

1456
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,680
storytelling and everything else so as

1457
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:29,440
we're evolving through

1458
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,559
uh our language we're finding better

1459
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:33,839
ways to define

1460
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,720
what this experience is so yes it is

1461
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:37,680
nuts and bolts

1462
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:39,520
because that's the limited language that

1463
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:40,799
we had in the past

1464
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:43,200
but as we're expanding our language now

1465
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,960
we're understanding that it's much much

1466
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,359
more and deeper than just nuts and bolts

1467
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,200
uh ships flying around and flying

1468
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,960
saucers there's a

1469
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,799
there's a interdimensional component

1470
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,559
that beings do

1471
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,240
travel through ships but there's also a

1472
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:58,160
telepathic

1473
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:01,760
tele-empathic uh communication aspect to

1474
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:02,240
it

1475
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,680
there's an archetypal um you know

1476
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:07,599
our native cultures have described this

1477
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:10,480
there's this archetypal energy

1478
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,359
frequency to it so it's evolving it's

1479
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,960
constantly changing and

1480
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,640
by the time they actually physically

1481
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:18,480
land here collectively where we can all

1482
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:19,359
experience it

1483
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,720
i think that experience is going to be

1484
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:22,000
vastly different than what we're

1485
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,319
projecting right now as a collective

1486
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,319
because we're only seeing what we can

1487
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:27,520
see right now

1488
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:30,319
and if you you know our future

1489
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:31,680
projection

1490
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:34,559
of what is now is going to change 10

1491
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,359
years from now

1492
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:37,280
like because we're going to evolve in

1493
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:38,880
whatever direction we decide to involve

1494
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:39,440
in

1495
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:42,559
different perception

1496
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,839
or or idea of what 10 years from that

1497
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,480
future is

1498
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,400
compared to right now what is 10 years

1499
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,480
or 20 years into the future yeah we have

1500
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,520
a bear moving

1501
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:53,440
yeah yeah we have a very limited

1502
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,640
understanding

1503
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:56,480
or you know what or lack of

1504
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,760
understanding we

1505
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:59,920
you know you know what i mean we we

1506
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,240
really don't have any idea

1507
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,559
uh what we are dealing with and there's

1508
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,319
no reason to think that we

1509
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,440
should understand how could we right

1510
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:12,160
any more than well any more than a dog

1511
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,680
can understand i would argue that a

1512
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:15,520
little bit yeah you think so

1513
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:19,599
why why is that well i think it's

1514
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:22,960
it's because what we do so

1515
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,160
in my show uh i'm talking to a lot of

1516
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:28,720
very and you've had many of them on your

1517
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,359
show uh

1518
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:31,280
of the channelers daryl anka being one

1519
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:32,799
of the most popular

1520
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:36,799
sure um so these these people are able

1521
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:37,520
to

1522
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:42,240
daryl's described this like a radio

1523
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:45,599
uh uh box set or a tv set

1524
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:48,720
that can tune in to these uh frequencies

1525
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,440
that are

1526
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:52,079
playing through the cosmic you know uh

1527
00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:53,200
broadcaster

1528
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:55,920
and if you have the right signal you can

1529
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,240
just

1530
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,240
simply shift from like watching you know

1531
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,720
all the hundreds of thousands of

1532
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,559
uh cable channels you can just flip the

1533
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:04,799
channel pretty easily and then you get

1534
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,280
um you're still the general ink of the

1535
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:09,200
vessel but you're able to tune into the

1536
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,480
bashar channel and then um i think this

1537
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,079
is giving this the more people

1538
01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,240
that we have these conversations like

1539
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:19,599
i'm having with

1540
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:22,960
that can that have this ability and

1541
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:25,760
sort of my goal with the show is to

1542
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,640
reach out to

1543
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:29,680
as many of these intuitive channels

1544
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:33,119
people that i can access and and

1545
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,480
try to fit together this puzzle um

1546
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:38,160
finding out what everybody's saying

1547
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,839
because yes they're slightly different

1548
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:41,440
but there's a bigger

1549
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:44,079
fuller picture that seems to connect the

1550
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:44,640
dots

1551
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,960
all of these channelers all of the even

1552
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:47,680
the the

1553
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,440
ufology all of it there's a big picture

1554
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:55,599
that that's been coming together

1555
01:01:02,069 --> 01:00:58,960
and ultimately i can't say with

1556
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:02,079
absolute confidence that yes this is it

1557
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:04,640
but the more research i do and the more

1558
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,440
in depth

1559
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:08,640
i go the more i'm finding out that there

1560
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:10,240
is a

1561
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:14,000
sort of a universal there's universal

1562
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:17,119
uh daryl even says that universal laws

1563
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:20,240
and those universal laws uh even though

1564
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:22,400
the language or the interpretation may

1565
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:25,280
slightly differ from from being to being

1566
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,079
those laws

1567
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:28,079
essentially don't change they're there

1568
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,119
they exist

1569
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:31,200
in in whichever direction you want to

1570
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:32,160
look at if you want to look at it

1571
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:33,440
through the science direction through

1572
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,640
the channel direction through the

1573
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:36,319
religion direction

1574
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,520
or the philosophical direction like

1575
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:41,760
these things kind of all come together

1576
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:43,440
and they're

1577
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:48,480
telepathic for the lack of a better word

1578
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:50,400
it's the word you used right

1579
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:53,440
but for your telepathic communication

1580
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:55,520
that is happening now would that have

1581
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:56,880
happened if you

1582
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,079
didn't make ed right

1583
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:02,000
is this something that you know would

1584
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:05,680
have came and found you anyway

1585
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:08,880
yeah so i i i don't claim to be a

1586
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:12,000
telepathic uh you know intuitive

1587
01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:16,799
channel or any of that stuff um i have

1588
01:02:22,069 --> 01:02:20,319
from since diving into this world i have

1589
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:22,079
uh and i think i mentioned this in the

1590
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,520
last time of your show i've done

1591
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:26,000
ayahuasca ceremonies and i've been able

1592
01:02:29,029 --> 01:02:26,720
to

1593
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:29,039
experience what i believe is telepathic

1594
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:30,559
communication in that sense

1595
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,839
so i was able to sort of you know have a

1596
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:35,200
uh get images

1597
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,319
and and send images to other people in

1598
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:40,480
the in the circle the medicine circle

1599
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:43,119
and they were able to do the same back

1600
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:43,520
so

1601
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,359
and later we we um in the morning after

1602
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:49,680
the medicine were off we exchanged notes

1603
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:53,119
and for sure enough

1604
01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:54,799
uh those images were being sent and

1605
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:56,480
received you know just as i was sending

1606
01:03:01,589 --> 01:02:57,680
them receiving

1607
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:01,599
later on um i received a download so to

1608
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:02,079
say

1609
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,440
from a uh i i've

1610
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:08,160
did an interview with linda mulmel uh

1611
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,359
about this i don't know if it's ever

1612
01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:10,880
been released

1613
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,839
but uh i had a contact experience from

1614
01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:16,000
uh mantasping

1615
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:19,599
and receive these telepathic

1616
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,640
uh images and sensations and feelings

1617
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:23,920
and

1618
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:25,839
very similar i can just compare it kind

1619
01:03:29,029 --> 01:03:27,920
of to that ayahuasca experience that's

1620
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,039
the closest thing i can

1621
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:31,920
i can compare it to since then i haven't

1622
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:34,160
had any full-on telepathic

1623
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:37,359
uh downloads or images

1624
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,480
but i have noticed i'm more

1625
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:42,720
intuitive in the sense that you know i

1626
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:44,240
maybe i'm following my gut

1627
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:47,039
more or i'm feeling with my heart more

1628
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:47,680
i'm feeling

1629
01:03:52,390 --> 01:03:50,880
emotions and i go into meditations now

1630
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:52,400
and i can try to

1631
01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:55,440
sense the uh the feelings behind

1632
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:58,079
different ideas concepts conversations

1633
01:04:02,230 --> 01:03:59,039
people

1634
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:02,240
uh interactions and when i when i do

1635
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:02,799
that

1636
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:06,400
i seem to have a a broader understanding

1637
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:08,079
than just the logical mind

1638
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:10,079
than just you know critical thinking and

1639
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:11,680
these kinds of things and maybe go a

1640
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:12,079
step

1641
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,920
deeper and go an extra layer by using

1642
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:17,200
some of these techniques that i've

1643
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:18,640
learned from over the years from the

1644
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:19,760
meditations and

1645
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,880
and from these particular experiences

1646
01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:24,640
with either with the medicine

1647
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:27,839
or this one it's only happened once uh

1648
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,720
well

1649
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:30,960
only happened once in the extreme manner

1650
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:33,200
that it happened with this mantis bean

1651
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,079
um so those are sort of my two reference

1652
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:38,160
points now that i can use to help build

1653
01:04:42,549 --> 01:04:39,200
off of and

1654
01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:42,559
and use subtle intuitive uh

1655
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,839
intuition right so um

1656
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,960
i don't know if i answer the questions

1657
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:48,880
but i just wanted to clarify that

1658
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,920
that this has been my path with

1659
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:53,119
understanding the telepathic

1660
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:55,359
communication thing yeah and so

1661
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,319
yeah i think you answered the question

1662
01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:00,000
but i'm not even worried about that

1663
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,400
it's how it's what you said it's what

1664
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:04,160
you said that's more important

1665
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,960
let's let's focus on this mantis being

1666
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:08,240
for a second because

1667
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:11,440
you're very clearly defining

1668
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,319
uh who uh gave you this download

1669
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:18,720
so how do you know how do you know it

1670
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:21,760
was a mantas being

1671
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:23,839
so i do i wanted to uh answer the

1672
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:24,960
question now so the

1673
01:05:30,950 --> 01:05:29,200
um so the reason so i was doing this

1674
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:30,960
the series interview with ed i had

1675
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:32,559
started it and i started asking all

1676
01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:34,160
these questions to these

1677
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:37,520
channelers about different races and

1678
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:40,000
human race in our uh our creation where

1679
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:41,280
do we come from

1680
01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:44,720
uh which races make up the human genome

1681
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,240
these are all questions that i ask in

1682
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,480
the show so yes i was fully

1683
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,559
engaged in the show when i had this

1684
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:52,960
visitation from this mantis bean

1685
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:56,720
and in a sense i was downloaded um

1686
01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:00,079
images and uh it was it was almost

1687
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:01,760
electrical like my whole body was

1688
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:03,599
vibrating um

1689
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,359
my teeth were chattering and clacking

1690
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:09,039
i felt kind of sick i didn't know what

1691
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,119
was going on i went to lay down

1692
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:13,520
and and then i basically got this

1693
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:14,799
information

1694
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:17,359
so i can say that i interpolated as

1695
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:18,000
these images

1696
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:19,680
and sensations and everything were

1697
01:06:24,549 --> 01:06:21,359
happening um

1698
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:27,589
the human experiment right the hum what

1699
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:28,079
is

1700
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:31,520
asking at the time

1701
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,559
where what what genomes what

1702
01:06:37,829 --> 01:06:36,160
key races sort of make up the human

1703
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:37,839
experience and why and what is this all

1704
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:39,119
about

1705
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:42,480
um and so i got that as well as

1706
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,880
other downloads about draconians and um

1707
01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:49,520
different things and i i sort of kept

1708
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,720
that experience it was on a

1709
01:06:54,309 --> 01:06:52,319
lunar eclipse the night of the rooney

1710
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,319
club said just come back from

1711
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:56,640
sort of watching it watching the moon

1712
01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:57,599
set

1713
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:01,280
or rise i should say and um

1714
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:09,270
six months later i was at the ufo

1715
01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:10,559
congress

1716
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:14,559
and um i think it was just hanging out i

1717
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:15,200
forget

1718
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:18,480
but the

1719
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:21,280
the miguel mendoza and barbara lim had

1720
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,240
released a book

1721
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:24,640
called uh meet the hybrids right and

1722
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:25,680
they were

1723
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,280
talking about it

1724
01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:35,359
and i saw it and i was like oh wow

1725
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:36,319
that's interesting

1726
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,920
these people had some really interesting

1727
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:40,000
things to say and they and there was two

1728
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:42,240
that said they were mantis human hybrids

1729
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:42,960
and i

1730
01:07:46,069 --> 01:07:44,480
i said okay this is this is going to be

1731
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:46,079
good because i've had my now i've had

1732
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,680
this mantis experience who would i talk

1733
01:07:51,670 --> 01:07:49,520
to about this the only person i knew

1734
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,680
that knew anything about mantis was

1735
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:53,200
winnable and howl because she had

1736
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,000
interviewed these uh different people

1737
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,319
about it so i went and read about them

1738
01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:00,000
a little bit but i didn't have much

1739
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:01,760
knowledge or know anybody who had

1740
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:03,039
knowledge about them

1741
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:06,160
except for these two um jacqueline

1742
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,400
uh smith and and robert burlington who

1743
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,280
were there at the convention and i ran

1744
01:08:16,709 --> 01:08:15,200
up to him and i said hey guys can

1745
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:16,719
can we do an interview for my show have

1746
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,239
you got this thing going and they said

1747
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:20,640
yeah sure so we pulled them aside

1748
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:24,080
uh in the morning not telling them any

1749
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,960
details i said

1750
01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:26,960
i think i may have met had some mantis

1751
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,799
experiences but i'm not quite sure

1752
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,960
i just want to know more so not fully

1753
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:32,640
revealing

1754
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:35,199
the downloads that i had i sort of

1755
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,640
started the interview

1756
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,400
and it's a fun interview it's part of my

1757
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,239
season one and

1758
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:42,719
you can see uh i start to let on well i

1759
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:44,960
had this experience and they said this

1760
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,679
and my mind was blown at how accurately

1761
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:49,359
they described

1762
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,120
the beans and also how um

1763
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,960
how actually they described him as in

1764
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:57,359
accordance to my to my uh

1765
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,400
uh experience and then also

1766
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:01,920
just some of the messages that they were

1767
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:03,920
talking about were very

1768
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:06,080
almost the same as the stuff that i was

1769
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,679
downloaded so that again another

1770
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,839
confirmation that you're like okay

1771
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:11,359
i don't remember reading this

1772
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:12,880
information out there or hearing it even

1773
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:14,719
though i'm investigating it

1774
01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:17,199
uh exactly the way they're putting it so

1775
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,799
there must be something to this whole

1776
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:20,000
thing maybe they really are

1777
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:23,199
mentioned human hybrids um at this point

1778
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:23,520
now

1779
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:26,560
i do believe that

1780
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:29,759
uh they have been knowing about all the

1781
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:32,080
hybrid agendas and everything else

1782
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:36,239
maybe in the sense that we understand um

1783
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,319
genetically altered in the in this full

1784
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,239
sense that we understand it but i do

1785
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:43,120
believe they've both been heavily

1786
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:43,920
influenced

1787
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:46,560
and perhaps altered uh somewhat

1788
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:47,679
genetically

1789
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,359
to carry that mantis archetype

1790
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:53,679
so they become become a better conduit a

1791
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:55,360
better uh

1792
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:58,560
uh transfer of that mantis

1793
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:01,679
energy and uh and then later

1794
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,000
in a couple of weeks elizabeth april who

1795
01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:06,080
i interviewed she has a mantis bean that

1796
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:07,440
she connects with

1797
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,280
and that's going to be coming out on my

1798
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:12,159
season two where i go even more in depth

1799
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,239
in the mantis thing because i've had

1800
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,239
more visitations since then

1801
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,400
in a more subtle way more in like dreams

1802
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:20,640
and just meditations not like that

1803
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:23,120
full-on experience that i had

1804
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,920
years ago and we can continue this after

1805
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:27,600
the break but

1806
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:32,000
um the consistencies between

1807
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,360
uh who is uh uh

1808
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:38,080
an extra dimensional and how they are

1809
01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:38,480
are

1810
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:42,480
connecting in this channel uh session

1811
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:45,360
what are the consistencies that you see

1812
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,280
is this a pure

1813
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,679
physics question you know is it

1814
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:52,159
entanglement across the universe

1815
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:54,080
is it something more direct than that i

1816
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:56,880
know that darylanka says that bashar is

1817
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,640
you know on a ship you know right

1818
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,320
outside of uh earth's

1819
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:02,400
you know uh orbit you know it's right

1820
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:04,640
here that's more direct but

1821
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:07,679
everything else what what's the data

1822
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,030
do we have time for the break yeah we've

1823
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:15,280
got five minutes okay

1824
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:18,480
okay so um

1825
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:21,440
i think definitely there is just like

1826
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:22,320
sir

1827
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:25,600
jacqueline and robert are able to

1828
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:29,040
carry that mantis energy uh brighter

1829
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:30,960
than let's say someone who doesn't have

1830
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:31,280
that

1831
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,000
future version of himself

1832
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:38,239
i think the genetics definitely play a

1833
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,080
role in

1834
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:41,840
how we connect to these other versions

1835
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:44,080
of ourselves essentially

1836
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:46,640
that's what these um channelers i would

1837
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,080
say

1838
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:51,120
99 of them are actually connecting

1839
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:53,440
99 90 let's give some margin in there

1840
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:54,719
for um

1841
01:11:58,470 --> 01:11:56,960
ninety percent of them are actually

1842
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:58,480
connecting to other versions of

1843
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,560
themselves and ultimately when you know

1844
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,920
you understand that

1845
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,920
all is one everything is we're all

1846
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,520
started us we're all connected to the

1847
01:12:09,270 --> 01:12:07,440
same things we're all

1848
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,280
brothers and sisters to some form or

1849
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:11,199
fashion but

1850
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,280
going down the you know the big bang and

1851
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,360
the genetic lines and all the different

1852
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:17,840
um energies that have split off and done

1853
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,360
everything else

1854
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,000
the there's definitely more of a

1855
01:12:26,229 --> 01:12:23,840
connection

1856
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:26,239
with you know like daryl and his

1857
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,239
counterpart bashar and you know

1858
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:30,400
jacqueline and to these other beings

1859
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:31,360
that

1860
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:34,960
um have sections of their dna

1861
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:37,040
in us perhaps maybe we're carrying that

1862
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:38,480
dna physically

1863
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:41,120
or an archetype a specific archetype

1864
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:42,320
that we resonate

1865
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,920
with you know for example i'm i'm um

1866
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:47,600
i very i very much resonate with the

1867
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:49,520
hero archetype right so i'm

1868
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,760
in my many of the roles i play as an

1869
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,719
actor

1870
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:55,120
you know i'm i'm the the guy that goes

1871
01:12:59,110 --> 01:12:56,400
and beats up the bad guy

1872
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:59,120
or you know saves the day or whatever

1873
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:59,520
that's

1874
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:02,000
sort of the typical action role that i

1875
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,120
that i play

1876
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:06,480
uh and then yet i'm living out that

1877
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,120
role somewhat in real life you know i'm

1878
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:10,880
investigating and i'm trying to find the

1879
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:11,840
truth and you know

1880
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:13,280
trying to spread the information to the

1881
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:14,880
people you know in a sense it's kind of

1882
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:15,360
a

1883
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:19,840
cutting up uh demons with my sword but

1884
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,480
in real life but in a way you know i'm

1885
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,760
trying to expose

1886
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:26,880
uh the truth and um tell people to you

1887
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,199
know

1888
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:29,679
get along and or help tell people share

1889
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:30,239
that we're

1890
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:33,840
we're all one family here so um

1891
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:37,360
that those archetypes the dna

1892
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,719
were all interconnected and uh it's

1893
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,560
easier to connect to those

1894
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,320
versions of ourselves that are sort of

1895
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,080
within the same frequency

1896
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,239
and same resonance and then it just goes

1897
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,000
further from there but

1898
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,560
you know we're not locked into being you

1899
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,840
know

1900
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,520
daryl is not the only one that can

1901
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:57,040
channel bashar bashar has come through

1902
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:58,000
other people

1903
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:01,120
so um or i think he says he's the only

1904
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,480
one right now

1905
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,640
but in the past there's def and i've

1906
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:05,679
interviewed people who

1907
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:08,800
uh who have channeled bashar in the past

1908
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,199
so it's not like it's fixed but

1909
01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:13,199
definitely there's a resonance

1910
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:16,960
that it makes it easier for us to uh

1911
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:19,120
all humans who are channelers in their

1912
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:20,640
own right to connect

1913
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,840
to these energies let's take our break

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01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:25,760
right here reuben stay right there this

1915
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:27,840
is fade to black i guess tonight reuben

1916
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,880
langdon

1917
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:31,120
we're talking about his new tv series it

1918
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,679
is called interviews with ed

1919
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,679
extra dimensionals we've got all the

1920
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,159
links up over at jimmychurchradio.com

1921
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:40,080
stay with us we'll be right back more

1922
01:14:58,830 --> 01:14:41,920
with reuben after this short break stay

1923
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:08,830
[Music]

1924
01:15:20,110 --> 01:15:11,100
so

1925
01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:20,120
[Music]

1926
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:25,590
welcome back fade to black i am your

1927
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,880
host jimmy church our guest tonight

1928
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:28,159
reuben langdon

1929
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:32,239
he's an actor screenwriter director

1930
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:36,840
editor stunt coordinator stunt person

1931
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:39,840
researcher you know i can go on and on

1932
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:40,239
right

1933
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:43,600
i know you're laughing but um

1934
01:15:49,030 --> 01:15:47,120
yeah yeah it's uh it's it's so much fun

1935
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:49,040
to discuss these things with you because

1936
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:50,560
of your background

1937
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:52,880
and and knowing that you've got to kind

1938
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:53,600
of uh

1939
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:55,600
you've got to wear two hats you've got a

1940
01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,159
serious side of hollywood

1941
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,880
you know where you're you've you know

1942
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,480
that's where you're employed

1943
01:16:05,510 --> 01:16:04,960
and then this other side not to say that

1944
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:05,520
it's not

1945
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:08,719
serious but you're going into zones

1946
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:11,840
now that aren't necessarily based

1947
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:15,360
uh in a 2d or 3d reality

1948
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:18,560
of of earth with your feet on the ground

1949
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,679
you have to now right right mainstream

1950
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:23,679
right yes right absolutely about the

1951
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:25,520
mainstream type conversation

1952
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:28,640
it certainly isn't and when you are

1953
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:32,320
doing these interviews uh reuben

1954
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:35,679
uh have you been in a situation

1955
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:39,360
where uh you were thinking to yourself

1956
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:42,719
okay you know what this ain't real

1957
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:45,840
uh i'm gonna continue the interview but

1958
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:53,270
there actually has been some a few i

1959
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:53,600
think

1960
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:57,760
that i didn't

1961
01:17:01,510 --> 01:17:00,719
follow through with that wasn't enough

1962
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:01,520
not because

1963
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,719
i didn't think the material was real

1964
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:06,880
uh the material i did enough homework

1965
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:08,800
beforehand sort of getting drawn into

1966
01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:10,159
the material to know that the material

1967
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:11,600
was legit

1968
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:14,880
but um i i sort of use

1969
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:18,320
my my my bs meter

1970
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,880
um and and i say that not in the sense

1971
01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:24,159
that that these people

1972
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:26,719
are are right or wrong um or the

1973
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:28,560
information coming through is is not

1974
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:29,360
right

1975
01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:32,719
but for me a big part of it is

1976
01:17:39,350 --> 01:17:36,159
is integrity and i think

1977
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,360
some of these people the actual

1978
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,280
people if they're not acting out of

1979
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,040
integrity if they're not

1980
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:46,159
um presenting if they're sort of you

1981
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:47,199
know

1982
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:50,400
have uh some some issues themselves

1983
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:52,159
what happens is that definitely comes

1984
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:53,520
through the channels the channel

1985
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:54,239
material

1986
01:17:59,110 --> 01:17:57,360
in a subtle way because uh you have to

1987
01:18:03,189 --> 01:17:59,120
be

1988
01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:03,199
yourself

1989
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:06,400
to to tune into these higher frequencies

1990
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:08,080
so if you're off if you're not doing the

1991
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:09,840
work and if you're not

1992
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:12,800
of integrity or have alternate motives

1993
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:13,600
or whatever

1994
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:17,520
and that's

1995
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,920
to to do it in a malicious way or just

1996
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,760
to take money or whatever it is

1997
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,520
that's going to come through the

1998
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:26,880
channeling and you're going to

1999
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:30,080
connect to an entity or an energy and

2000
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:33,440
and we think things as being just once

2001
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,840
one entity you know but there are there

2002
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:36,960
are you know

2003
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:40,400
big scales where you can connect to

2004
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:42,400
an entity but this version of that

2005
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:44,320
entity you know a not so nice

2006
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:47,360
version uh a version that maybe one

2007
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,360
may want to take advantage of people or

2008
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,120
put people down

2009
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:53,679
uh so they can create a hierarchy so

2010
01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,320
they can

2011
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:56,719
you know suck their energy or suck their

2012
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:57,360
um

2013
01:19:00,870 --> 01:19:00,080
their money essentially right which has

2014
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,880
happened

2015
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:02,480
in the past with some some of these

2016
01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,960
bigger uh more well-known channels i

2017
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:06,640
won't name names but

2018
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,000
um i've had on a small scale

2019
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:12,480
just a few people that i've over the

2020
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:14,320
years doing these interviews where i've

2021
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:15,679
seen

2022
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:17,440
maybe not the best integrity so i've

2023
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:18,880
decided not to release it

2024
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:19,840
not because i didn't think the

2025
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:21,440
information wasn't right but because i

2026
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,800
just didn't want to send people that

2027
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:24,640
direction to those people i didn't want

2028
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:28,159
customers to go there and with your

2029
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:29,280
travels through

2030
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:31,679
hollywood does that give you a scale of

2031
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:33,280
discernment that

2032
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:37,120
most of us can't measure

2033
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,560
i would say so um you know early on i

2034
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:42,960
you know being young in a stuntman and

2035
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:44,320
you're willing to sort of

2036
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:47,199
do whatever and you don't really see

2037
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:48,080
actually my good

2038
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,920
i don't know if you've mentioned that

2039
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:51,760
the documentary out of shadows

2040
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:54,960
um my good buddy brad martin helped

2041
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:56,960
produce and direct that with liz crokin

2042
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:57,840
and

2043
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:01,679
mike smith um it had like within four

2044
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:02,159
days

2045
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:05,840
it had uh 10 million views

2046
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:07,280
we're going to have those guys on the

2047
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:10,159
show i've now seen the documentary like

2048
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:14,159
four times and great great holy crap

2049
01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:18,560
right oh yeah brad brad and mike

2050
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:19,920
really did a great job

2051
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:23,120
and did you guys ever i wanted to really

2052
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:23,520
quick

2053
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,040
i wanted to ask you did you guys ever

2054
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:28,000
work together on different films

2055
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,639
yes uh well brad and i i worked with

2056
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:32,719
mike a couple times he hired me for jobs

2057
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:33,920
uh brad and i

2058
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,159
we've been good friends we've worked on

2059
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:38,080
the same project but not really at the

2060
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:39,040
same time

2061
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,159
so he brought me in uh he actually

2062
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,239
helped me get on charlie's angels back

2063
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:46,080
in the day i was doubling the the thin

2064
01:20:48,629 --> 01:20:46,480
man

2065
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:48,639
he was the original double and then he

2066
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:49,520
had

2067
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:53,040
to go uh on another project or something

2068
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:54,320
and couldn't make it so he

2069
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:57,120
brad introduced me and i got uh got to

2070
01:21:02,229 --> 01:20:59,040
work with uh

2071
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:02,239
charlie's angels which was cool um

2072
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,760
thanks to brad but at that time we

2073
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,679
weren't really into this stuff and then

2074
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,280
it started to come out and then

2075
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:08,880
brad reached out to me goes hey ruben

2076
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:10,719
i've been watching your post and

2077
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:14,000
i think we need to talk and so um

2078
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,760
we've had some really good good

2079
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:17,600
conversations over the years

2080
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:19,679
about this about what's going on in the

2081
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:20,719
material and

2082
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:23,920
and he's more in it for the you know he

2083
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,520
appreciates my ep stuff and

2084
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,679
he likes to we'd like to have dinner and

2085
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,199
chat about it but

2086
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:33,040
we really get riled up just over the

2087
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:34,400
world affairs and the

2088
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:36,880
the craziness that's going on and with

2089
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:37,679
the economy

2090
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,800
and you know all of it now when we when

2091
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:42,480
we look at something

2092
01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:45,760
uh uh historically like you know like

2093
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:48,159
jane roberts for instance

2094
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:51,679
where you can see and if uh

2095
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:54,800
and i'm sure you have but if anybody in

2096
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:55,520
the audience

2097
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:58,880
uh has a chance to go back and watch

2098
01:22:02,550 --> 01:21:59,760
it's out there

2099
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:02,560
you can see interviews with jane roberts

2100
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,040
uh

2101
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,040
when she's not channeling and then you

2102
01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:07,679
can see jane channeling

2103
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:11,360
and the difference of her

2104
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,600
personality right this thing that

2105
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:15,840
happens immediately

2106
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:18,239
and when you hear her speak you know

2107
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:19,760
normal jane

2108
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:22,800
uh she's got a verbage

2109
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:26,719
and a vocabulary and a way of speaking

2110
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:28,480
that is her that's jane that's jane

2111
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:30,639
roberts and then when she goes

2112
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:34,719
into the seth uh stuff

2113
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,320
her entire not only demeanor but it's

2114
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,000
her vocabulary

2115
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:43,040
it's her addiction completely changes

2116
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,920
and comes from somewhere else is that

2117
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:47,600
something that you look for

2118
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,159
when somebody is is channeling right

2119
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,679
there

2120
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:53,440
not so much and actually that doesn't

2121
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:55,120
happen as much these days there are a

2122
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:55,760
few

2123
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:58,000
people who still do that that would be

2124
01:23:02,709 --> 01:22:59,199
the deep

2125
01:23:05,350 --> 01:23:02,719
uh trans channeling and um

2126
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,360
you know i know daryl and and also rob

2127
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,120
gothier they go

2128
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:10,080
what it is is they go into a deep state

2129
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,560
where

2130
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,480
they kind of black out they're not aware

2131
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,760
what's happening in this world

2132
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,760
that's right and then and then and then

2133
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:17,040
the being comes through and does its

2134
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:18,000
thing

2135
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:20,080
it's still you it's still they are still

2136
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,679
confidence they're still

2137
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:23,440
tuned in have to be tuned in to a

2138
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:24,880
certain extent

2139
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:26,880
but they kind of get out of the way so

2140
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:28,960
the information can come through clear

2141
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:31,280
and that's when you see these bigger

2142
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:32,719
steps and characters

2143
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,880
uh rob channels it's probably my

2144
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:36,159
favorite episode

2145
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,440
um season one um

2146
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,159
it's an interview with treb boritney a

2147
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:43,760
benevolent reptilian

2148
01:23:48,870 --> 01:23:46,239
and the character of treb and the

2149
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:48,880
character rob are so vastly different

2150
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,840
but uh it's such a joy to watch and you

2151
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:53,120
know you're sitting there in front of

2152
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:54,320
you and there's mannerisms and

2153
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:55,760
everything changes and you're just like

2154
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,760
whoa this is crazy but it's awesome and

2155
01:24:03,350 --> 01:23:59,280
the stuff that's me saying

2156
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:03,360
is so uh so so much truth it's so real

2157
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,920
um but most modern day channelers now

2158
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:09,199
and and this is the way it's been

2159
01:24:12,629 --> 01:24:10,880
explained to me through the channelers

2160
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:12,639
and to the channelines

2161
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:17,199
um is that because the earth's frequency

2162
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:20,159
is is rising so to say uh that may not

2163
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:21,600
be the right terminology but that's what

2164
01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:22,960
we're using right now

2165
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:25,280
uh it's expanding it's growing we're

2166
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:26,800
we're becoming lighter

2167
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:30,400
less dense in our reality of of how

2168
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:33,520
how things work throughout this this

2169
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:36,480
this dead soup it's kind of like uh

2170
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:37,920
we're

2171
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:41,360
soup where

2172
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,520
you know maybe 50 20 years ago we were

2173
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:45,120
in a thicker corn soup

2174
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:47,760
corn porridge or something to navigate

2175
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:48,239
it

2176
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:57,120
whatever subject that was going to

2177
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:00,960
to trans and bring in these entities

2178
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:02,400
they needed them to like get out of the

2179
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:04,080
way completely and just okay you go to

2180
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:05,760
sleep you're out and then then the

2181
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,280
entity can come in

2182
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:09,360
now it's because of the the lighter

2183
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:10,560
density

2184
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,960
these entities can sort of ease their

2185
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,000
way in

2186
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,920
and and the other person can still be

2187
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:17,360
present

2188
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:20,639
and aware but but at the same time kind

2189
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:22,800
of just take a back seat

2190
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:26,080
and i felt what that felt like

2191
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:29,280
um in my one of my later episodes in

2192
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:30,159
season one

2193
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,679
i had barbara lamb hypnotize me

2194
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:35,760
uh in a sense i asked her i said hey

2195
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:37,520
barbara i want a channel

2196
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:38,400
do you think we're gonna make that

2197
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:40,159
happen she was like well i've never done

2198
01:25:44,229 --> 01:25:41,440
it before but

2199
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:44,239
let's see so i asked her to hypnotize me

2200
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,840
so i could channel something so i could

2201
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:47,840
feel what that's like

2202
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:49,280
and sure enough it took a little while

2203
01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:51,040
but we got there and

2204
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,800
i describe it and this is how many

2205
01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,239
others describe it

2206
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:56,159
it's totally like you're in the backseat

2207
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,440
of a car

2208
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:59,120
it's it's like when you're when you're

2209
01:26:00,790 --> 01:26:00,320
having that conversation with that

2210
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,800
person

2211
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:02,320
and you're in the front seat it's right

2212
01:26:07,270 --> 01:26:04,639
there you can hear everything they say

2213
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:07,280
uh very clear but in the back seat

2214
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,239
you're kind of

2215
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:10,080
your focus is a little faded now because

2216
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:11,360
you might be looking out the window in

2217
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,159
the back

2218
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:13,920
uh you can hear the conversation that's

2219
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,280
happening up front

2220
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,199
but it's not your conversation you're

2221
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:19,199
just you're just kind of going along for

2222
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,639
the ride and you're listening

2223
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:22,320
that's what it felt like when i was

2224
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:24,480
channeling um

2225
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:26,800
uh it wasn't even a specific entity i

2226
01:26:29,750 --> 01:26:28,000
don't know what it was but it

2227
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:29,760
some energy was coming through it was

2228
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:31,199
pretty wild um

2229
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:34,239
and that's kind of how the more of the

2230
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,920
modern day channel or sort of describe

2231
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:37,280
it it's like they they get out of the

2232
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:38,880
way they're still there so they can snap

2233
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:40,960
out at any time so it's not like any

2234
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:42,960
entity is taking over your body so to

2235
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:44,080
say

2236
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,840
um they're just kind of getting out of

2237
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:47,840
the way so the information can

2238
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:50,880
can come forward and flow clearly

2239
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:54,159
what what is interesting with that point

2240
01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:57,199
is uh for the last

2241
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:00,400
two years i've been able to

2242
01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:04,159
uh introduce daryl and bashar

2243
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:07,679
uh at a couple of conferences

2244
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:11,360
that's right that's right were you there

2245
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,040
i i was not there but i didn't watch the

2246
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:15,280
playback okay you saw the playback okay

2247
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:16,800
so check this out

2248
01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:19,360
uh so i i've been able to go and have a

2249
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:21,760
conversation with bashar right now

2250
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:25,199
remember this that before each one of

2251
01:27:29,110 --> 01:27:26,080
those events

2252
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:29,120
daryl and i are backstage talking

2253
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:31,120
and getting things set up and everything

2254
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:32,159
is normal i'm

2255
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:35,920
speaking to daryl okay

2256
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:38,639
all right it's daryl and then uh you

2257
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,239
know i introduced me comes out on stage

2258
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:41,679
and then i go out and i'll uh

2259
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,080
ask the first couple of questions and

2260
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:46,400
and have a conversation with them

2261
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:49,760
after uh both events and i did it to him

2262
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:50,800
again this year

2263
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:53,920
right so afterwards a couple hours later

2264
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:55,760
daryl and i are alone

2265
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,560
and i go up to their like oh wow uh that

2266
01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:00,239
was a pretty interesting conversation

2267
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:00,880
with daryl

2268
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:03,920
and he goes how was it and i go

2269
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,600
uh what do you mean and he goes no

2270
01:28:12,229 --> 01:28:10,320
jimmy what do you mean i'm like well

2271
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,239
what do you mean

2272
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:14,320
dude i don't remember anything your

2273
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:16,639
conversation was with bashar

2274
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,280
it wasn't with me and he's i mean he is

2275
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:23,040
reuben he's looking at me straight in my

2276
01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:25,040
eyeballs when he says this

2277
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:28,159
right oh yeah and and i

2278
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:29,760
i wanted to have a conversation with

2279
01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:31,840
daryl about the conversation with bishar

2280
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:33,120
and how interesting

2281
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:36,719
but i couldn't because daryl didn't

2282
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:40,560
have any memory because it wasn't his

2283
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,679
conversation

2284
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,520
now for everybody out there that's

2285
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:44,960
listening right now

2286
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:47,040
that may be tough for you to wrap your

2287
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,320
head around

2288
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:50,800
but that's exactly what reuben is saying

2289
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:51,600
here

2290
01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:56,000
and it uh it was so interesting for me

2291
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:57,679
and also you know i got to be quite

2292
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:00,800
honest reuben i was taken aback

2293
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:03,520
because i wanted to talk to daryl about

2294
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:04,719
the conversation

2295
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:06,400
and about how important it was and

2296
01:29:10,870 --> 01:29:09,120
impactful in the audience that was there

2297
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:10,880
daryl didn't have any idea what i was

2298
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:12,159
talking about and

2299
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:15,520
you know what he laughed

2300
01:29:18,550 --> 01:29:16,880
yeah that's that's all you could do at

2301
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,560
that point right yeah he was like come

2302
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:19,760
on man

2303
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:23,280
yeah i was like wow that is it is just

2304
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:24,000
so interesting

2305
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:27,199
to me and and the

2306
01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:30,320
how do you think the uh

2307
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:32,239
connection is actually made i know

2308
01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:33,760
you've mentioned frequency

2309
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,760
you know it's like dialing in on a radio

2310
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:37,360
right and and i get that

2311
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:39,040
right but but how do you think that

2312
01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:40,480
connection is made

2313
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,960
and what do you think the distance is

2314
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:44,159
you know what i mean are we

2315
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:47,120
are we going to another galaxy another

2316
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,600
star

2317
01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:49,920
system is it something that is just in

2318
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,639
the ether

2319
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:53,360
of the universe and it just happens to

2320
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:54,880
be right here next to you and i

2321
01:29:59,830 --> 01:29:57,840
right now right i mean you've heard the

2322
01:30:03,110 --> 01:29:59,840
term timing is illusion right that's

2323
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:03,120
that's sort of we hear that all the time

2324
01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:07,199
and uh it literally is so in

2325
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,520
outside of our perception of what

2326
01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:11,760
reality is

2327
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:14,880
let's say behind the veil so to say

2328
01:30:17,910 --> 01:30:17,280
things aren't localized aren't limited

2329
01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:17,920
through

2330
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,600
space time and gravity so we're not

2331
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:24,000
we don't have to there is not the things

2332
01:30:26,790 --> 01:30:24,639
don't work

2333
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:26,800
in a higher dimensional realm you know

2334
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:28,560
fifth dimension and even neil degrasse

2335
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:29,520
tyson and

2336
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:33,520
and um uh michio kaku talk about this

2337
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:35,840
things don't run in a linear sense so

2338
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:36,800
you can literally

2339
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,960
go from you know think about your your

2340
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,480
life being

2341
01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:42,480
born as a baby to the end and that when

2342
01:30:47,189 --> 01:30:45,040
we think of that as a linear progression

2343
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:47,199
but in a higher dimensional realm you

2344
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:49,199
could literally go to any point of your

2345
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:49,679
life

2346
01:30:54,550 --> 01:30:52,159
as a baby as a you can and experience

2347
01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:54,560
that and experience yourself as a

2348
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:57,280
you know a junior high school student or

2349
01:31:01,510 --> 01:30:58,480
an old man

2350
01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:01,520
and that's how these higher dimensional

2351
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:02,000
beings

2352
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:05,360
can can perceive reality

2353
01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:08,000
uh because they're at a different

2354
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:09,199
they're beyond this

2355
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,080
limited version of the the non-linear

2356
01:31:17,830 --> 01:31:14,159
sense of reality

2357
01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:17,840
and not to say that our version of it

2358
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,719
isn't real it is but it it is and

2359
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:22,080
there's the

2360
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:25,040
the non-limited version and we're moving

2361
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:26,239
as we're moving

2362
01:31:30,070 --> 01:31:28,320
our collective consciousness and you

2363
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:30,080
know earth is moving through space

2364
01:31:33,510 --> 01:31:31,679
and the sun is traveling around the

2365
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:33,520
galaxies and there's all this

2366
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:36,239
action happening on the linear sense

2367
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:37,440
simultaneously we're

2368
01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:39,440
we're evolving into a higher frequency

2369
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:41,040
vibration like i was saying

2370
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:44,960
tesla says and we're able to

2371
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:48,000
um access these

2372
01:31:54,149 --> 01:31:51,760
states of being

2373
01:31:55,510 --> 01:31:54,159
these higher dimensional states much

2374
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:55,520
more easily

2375
01:32:00,070 --> 01:31:58,960
and that's when we're actually starting

2376
01:32:01,750 --> 01:32:00,080
to perceive and you have

2377
01:32:03,430 --> 01:32:01,760
more people you know doing yoga and go

2378
01:32:05,189 --> 01:32:03,440
into meditation and then it's these

2379
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:05,199
altered states of consciousness

2380
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:07,679
like channeling that we're able to

2381
01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:08,560
actually

2382
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,639
experience and see the world from a

2383
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:12,000
non-linear

2384
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:14,480
perspective so where are they at it

2385
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,520
could be anywhere

2386
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:17,760
in a linear sense they point like i said

2387
01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:19,920
they point to pleiades or they point to

2388
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:23,120
you know sirius or arcturus to let us

2389
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,040
get a a sort of frequency signature

2390
01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:29,280
of the vibration of what it is so when

2391
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:31,440
we bring that into our heart and we can

2392
01:32:34,870 --> 01:32:33,840
feel that we can vibrate at that

2393
01:32:37,669 --> 01:32:34,880
frequency

2394
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:37,679
then space and time doesn't matter we're

2395
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:38,560
right there

2396
01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:40,800
we're experiencing what it's like to be

2397
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:41,840
an arcturian

2398
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:45,920
or connect to uh octarian signals

2399
01:32:50,390 --> 01:32:48,719
because they also are non-local with

2400
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:50,400
space times and we can connect to

2401
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:50,960
different

2402
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:53,360
versions of time of them we can connect

2403
01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:55,360
to an earlier version of their race

2404
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:57,360
where they still had physicalized

2405
01:33:00,709 --> 01:32:59,440
experiences like we're having now but

2406
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:00,719
much more

2407
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,400
higher technology

2408
01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:06,639
and understanding of what reality is so

2409
01:33:11,110 --> 01:33:09,199
they can traverse their consciousness

2410
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:11,120
still in the physical form but in a much

2411
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:12,800
broader sense like sort of like bashar

2412
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:14,880
bashar is a physical idt

2413
01:33:18,310 --> 01:33:16,800
many of these consciousnesses have

2414
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:18,320
already evolved beyond

2415
01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:21,440
the physical form and they're just in

2416
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:23,840
and you can tap into those versions of

2417
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:25,840
those consciousnesses that are already

2418
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,719
evolved

2419
01:33:30,310 --> 01:33:28,800
again because time isn't linear how we

2420
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:30,320
see it we can just simply tap

2421
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:33,280
into oh this is the version this is the

2422
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:35,040
higher evolved version of the species

2423
01:33:41,590 --> 01:33:36,239
that this

2424
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:41,600
space-time uh signature space signature

2425
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:45,760
yeah it does because uh everybody when i

2426
01:33:49,189 --> 01:33:47,520
say everybody i mean everybody that's

2427
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:49,199
listening to you right now that listens

2428
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:51,600
to somebody channel like rob or

2429
01:33:57,669 --> 01:33:54,639
or or daryl uh roxanne is

2430
01:34:01,110 --> 01:33:57,679
is is fascinating yeah she's great

2431
01:34:04,229 --> 01:34:01,120
so the um uh the

2432
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:04,239
answer that everybody wants to hear

2433
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,520
is that linear pointing of the

2434
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:10,880
arrow right where is it coming from

2435
01:34:15,910 --> 01:34:13,920
any any other answer nobody nobody

2436
01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:15,920
nobody even wants to consider they don't

2437
01:34:20,310 --> 01:34:17,280
want to hear it

2438
01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:20,320
they want something definitive

2439
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:21,920
yeah well that's that's that's what

2440
01:34:25,430 --> 01:34:23,679
we're moving out of we're moving out of

2441
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:25,440
this definitive

2442
01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:29,120
uh fixed ideas because

2443
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:31,760
while the universe is unlimited and it's

2444
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:32,480
in its

2445
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,719
construct and we we understand that

2446
01:34:37,910 --> 01:34:36,480
through quantum physics the double-slit

2447
01:34:39,430 --> 01:34:37,920
experiment

2448
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:39,440
spooky action at a distance we're

2449
01:34:45,910 --> 01:34:42,480
understanding how limitless reality is

2450
01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:45,920
we just have to open up our perspectives

2451
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:47,040
our hearts

2452
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:50,800
our ideas of what

2453
01:34:54,229 --> 01:34:52,960
what is reality and the more we can do

2454
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:54,239
that the more we can

2455
01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:58,320
settle into a less limited reality

2456
01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:59,600
and i think and that's exactly what

2457
01:35:04,149 --> 01:35:01,199
we're doing we're figuring out that we

2458
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:04,159
are creating it as we're going along

2459
01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:06,400
and to do that we have to just tell

2460
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:08,639
better stories

2461
01:35:13,910 --> 01:35:11,679
well the yeah right no right

2462
01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:13,920
right right and and there's there's

2463
01:35:18,390 --> 01:35:15,119
another part to this

2464
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:18,400
that i find fascinating uh

2465
01:35:25,109 --> 01:35:21,679
that most don't

2466
01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:25,119
have an understanding of and it's this

2467
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:26,800
when you say the pleiades when you're

2468
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,800
talking about orion or ryan's belt or

2469
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,320
the seven sisters or

2470
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,719
or zeta reticuli the plate when you

2471
01:35:36,550 --> 01:35:34,639
start talking about these concepts of

2472
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:36,560
these star clusters

2473
01:35:43,229 --> 01:35:40,560
these uh we look at them

2474
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:43,239
from the beginning of time in a

2475
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:45,520
two-dimensional space

2476
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:47,520
right we're looking up to the stars

2477
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:48,960
we're looking up to the

2478
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:51,760
to the night sky and it's it's like a

2479
01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:54,080
drawing on a sheet of paper

2480
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:57,360
the the distance between these stars

2481
01:36:02,149 --> 01:35:58,639
amongst themselves

2482
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:02,159
in a depth and uh in a in a 3d

2483
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:05,520
and 4d time construct

2484
01:36:09,669 --> 01:36:08,960
is a ginormous amount of space it's not

2485
01:36:13,109 --> 01:36:09,679
like the

2486
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:13,119
pin on a map you can't define that when

2487
01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:15,040
you're talking about orion's belt or the

2488
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:15,920
sevens

2489
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:19,040
you're not doing it that way and the

2490
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:20,320
pleiades aren't

2491
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:23,600
you know uh like north hollywood

2492
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,280
sherman oaks burbank right and bad eyes

2493
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:29,280
where they're right next to each other

2494
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:30,960
that's not the case is it

2495
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:34,000
so you can't you can't do a linear line

2496
01:36:38,149 --> 01:36:34,960
to that

2497
01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:38,159
because it is separated by uh you know

2498
01:36:47,669 --> 01:36:45,189
right and if if if you

2499
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:47,679
one way i look at it is and this is why

2500
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,400
i say that

2501
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,960
the language is really letting us

2502
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:52,560
understand it better so when we

2503
01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:54,719
understand that the frequencies

2504
01:36:57,990 --> 01:36:56,320
and what i'm sort of trying to do a

2505
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:58,000
little bit in the show is sort of create

2506
01:37:18,310 --> 01:36:59,199
a

2507
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:18,320
existed in our storytelling

2508
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,760
and history uh and different ideas

2509
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:23,840
for you know different you know from the

2510
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:24,960
bible to

2511
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:28,480
to the um to modern day you know comic

2512
01:37:31,030 --> 01:37:29,119
books

2513
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,040
these archetypal energies exist

2514
01:37:36,149 --> 01:37:32,480
everywhere we look

2515
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:36,159
and and we're putting this et

2516
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:39,679
label on it in order to connect to that

2517
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:40,639
energy

2518
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:43,920
uh and go even deeper and maybe even

2519
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,320
have a physicalized experience with

2520
01:37:51,430 --> 01:37:48,719
these archetypes

2521
01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:51,440
as opposed to just being part of our

2522
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:52,639
storytelling

2523
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:54,800
and i think that's what the et story is

2524
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:55,760
ultimately

2525
01:38:03,669 --> 01:38:02,149
retelling redefining these archetypes

2526
01:38:06,070 --> 01:38:03,679
and understanding them and connecting

2527
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,080
with them in a in a new and

2528
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,239
unique way and experience that we we

2529
01:38:15,510 --> 01:38:13,990
on this planet for thousands of years

2530
01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:15,520
and

2531
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,440
ultimately what do you think that we

2532
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:19,440
should do with this information because

2533
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,560
there is

2534
01:38:24,629 --> 01:38:23,760
a consistency with with what is coming

2535
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,639
through

2536
01:38:28,629 --> 01:38:26,880
and i and i hear that right i hear a

2537
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,639
very consistent message

2538
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:30,639
and then i hear things that directly

2539
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:32,000
conflict

2540
01:38:37,270 --> 01:38:35,119
with each other and so how do we

2541
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:37,280
how do we dilute and connect the dots

2542
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:40,560
and come to one conclusion

2543
01:38:44,229 --> 01:38:42,639
well you know the shark says the best i

2544
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:44,239
think the the number one

2545
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,360
um the number one thing to do is to

2546
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:48,880
follow your excitement

2547
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:51,199
and we and each for each of us that's

2548
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,119
going to be unique and different

2549
01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:55,199
and to to do that to the best of our

2550
01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:57,440
ability you know without any insistence

2551
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:57,840
on the

2552
01:39:03,830 --> 01:39:01,199
outcome is sort of what he says a lot so

2553
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:03,840
many of the beans have basically in fact

2554
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:04,800
i think all of them that i've

2555
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:05,520
interviewed

2556
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:07,600
basically say the same thing maybe some

2557
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,880
different language some different words

2558
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,880
he kind of wraps it up in a nice little

2559
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:14,000
easy to quote sentence there but

2560
01:39:17,430 --> 01:39:16,000
essentially you know follow our passions

2561
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:17,440
for our joy

2562
01:39:24,070 --> 01:39:20,960
and not having

2563
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:24,080
uh judgment on others of having

2564
01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:25,679
for having a different type of belief

2565
01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:27,119
system or a different idea of what

2566
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:28,320
reality is or

2567
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:32,800
following a different et and if we can

2568
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:36,960
sort of merge those together then

2569
01:39:39,990 --> 01:39:39,440
we naturally will follow the path that

2570
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:40,000
we've been

2571
01:39:45,510 --> 01:39:43,679
designed to follow as a as a

2572
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:45,520
piece of the universe a piece of god or

2573
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,119
a piece of a

2574
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:50,400
a sentient being you know navigating

2575
01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:51,920
this reality

2576
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:54,080
i think we all have been born with

2577
01:39:57,590 --> 01:39:55,920
unique

2578
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:57,600
pieces of the puzzle to the greater

2579
01:40:03,510 --> 01:39:59,679
puzzle and we've

2580
01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:03,520
sort of told our you know society

2581
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:05,199
has told us and we've bought into it

2582
01:40:08,310 --> 01:40:07,119
that we need to all be doctors and

2583
01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:08,320
lawyers

2584
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,760
and uh and maybe some other things here

2585
01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:12,320
there but

2586
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:13,840
we're fine we're finding out really

2587
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:15,600
quickly that's not working very well

2588
01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:17,520
but the world can only take so many

2589
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:18,719
doctors and lawyers

2590
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:22,400
um then then uh

2591
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:24,320
by following our passions by following

2592
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:26,080
that unique piece of the puzzle that we

2593
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:26,880
are

2594
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,600
it's gonna fit much much better and then

2595
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:31,920
we can support each other in doing that

2596
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:33,679
even though it's different and it's okay

2597
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:35,119
to be different and i think that's where

2598
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:36,239
this the whole

2599
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:39,280
diversity thing is is coming from is

2600
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:40,239
that we

2601
01:40:45,270 --> 01:40:43,679
um can really embrace that and that's

2602
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:45,280
where the true evolution that's where

2603
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:46,639
we're all going to become sort of

2604
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:49,280
interconnected telepathic and then we'll

2605
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,679
shoot

2606
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:51,920
to the stars and beyond let's take our

2607
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:53,280
break right here reuben great

2608
01:40:56,790 --> 01:40:54,560
conversation this

2609
01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:56,800
is fade to black i am your host jimmy

2610
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:57,679
church

2611
01:41:01,430 --> 01:41:00,320
and we'll be right back more with reuben

2612
01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:01,440
langdon

2613
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,679
interviews with ed after this short

2614
01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:05,199
break i'm your host jimmy church on the

2615
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:06,719
game changer network

2616
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,080
and kgra the planet stay with us

2617
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:13,040
all right i'm back i had to uh i had to

2618
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,760
go do stuff

2619
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:15,760
sorry about that sorry for the delay wow

2620
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,040
i've never actually done that before

2621
01:41:23,350 --> 01:41:21,520
but uh this is fade to black i'm going

2622
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:23,360
to be church our guest tonight reuben

2623
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,080
london

2624
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:26,480
reuben i was off tending to technical

2625
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:28,080
issues

2626
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:31,199
i have those a lot yes

2627
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:33,360
off having to do it there's apparently

2628
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:34,800
there's some buffering issues

2629
01:41:38,070 --> 01:41:37,679
that we never deal with but it's nothing

2630
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,080
on

2631
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,320
our end right it's nothing everything is

2632
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:42,880
fine and all of the data and everything

2633
01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:44,239
is cool and

2634
01:41:47,510 --> 01:41:46,800
no drops in full stream and everything

2635
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:47,520
is cool

2636
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:49,440
there's something going on out there on

2637
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,719
the internet and

2638
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:52,880
and it happens once in a while right and

2639
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,760
it's uh yeah

2640
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,679
it's just i think we're in that mercury

2641
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,280
retrograde people talk about i don't

2642
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:59,520
know the full details of it but uh

2643
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,199
i've been having you know we had our

2644
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:03,040
little mic issue earlier

2645
01:42:06,550 --> 01:42:04,480
and then you're having your mind with

2646
01:42:08,070 --> 01:42:06,560
you or you're having your buffering

2647
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:08,080
issue and

2648
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:10,880
i've heard some other mishaps going on

2649
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,600
with uh

2650
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:14,000
technical things i guess that's people

2651
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:16,000
like to blame the mercury retrograde

2652
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,320
it's always my man i'm tired of mercury

2653
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:20,080
retrograde

2654
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:22,960
okay is it ever not that's okay man it's

2655
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:23,760
always

2656
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:27,040
we're never out of it apparently if you

2657
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:28,480
listen to everybody

2658
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:31,679
um yeah but i want to talk uh

2659
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:34,400
continuing the conversation um i want to

2660
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:35,360
talk about

2661
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:39,199
the the physics side of this i'm talking

2662
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:39,760
about the

2663
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,119
peer science level of the numbers

2664
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,119
of what we are dealing with today

2665
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:47,040
because the numbers

2666
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:50,400
are crazy and and what i mean by that is

2667
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,280
this

2668
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:53,600
just uh if you go back you know the

2669
01:43:02,790 --> 01:42:55,040
first exoplanet

2670
01:43:03,189 --> 01:43:02,800
right and a couple of years later there

2671
01:43:10,629 --> 01:43:03,199
was

2672
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:10,639
15 you know and here we are in 2020

2673
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:13,040
and the numbers that astrophysicists and

2674
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,960
astronomers and scientists are throwing

2675
01:43:20,470 --> 01:43:16,080
around today

2676
01:43:24,070 --> 01:43:20,480
that just in our milky way

2677
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:24,080
not the universe the milky way

2678
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:27,199
of which the milky way is the tiniest

2679
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,960
slice of the universe that you can

2680
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:30,239
imagine

2681
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:32,000
all right because we're talking about

2682
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:35,280
500 billion galaxies or a trillion

2683
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:36,320
galaxies

2684
01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:39,840
trillion stars

2685
01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:42,880
and each one of those having uh one or

2686
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:44,400
two trillion planets

2687
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:47,440
and and so you get to this number that

2688
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:48,639
is so but if we

2689
01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:51,840
just look at our milky way alone

2690
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:54,800
today we are now talking about and

2691
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:55,840
referenced

2692
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,360
20 billion 30 billion 40 billion rocky

2693
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:01,760
earth-like planets in the goldilocks

2694
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:02,800
zone

2695
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:06,480
in just our milky way so when we are

2696
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:07,600
talking about

2697
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:09,360
channeling and channeling these

2698
01:44:12,709 --> 01:44:11,360
different species you referenced a

2699
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:12,719
mantis being

2700
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:15,440
there is an infinite amount of mantis

2701
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:17,920
being species out there

2702
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,920
right there because because you're

2703
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:21,920
you're what you just said that num those

2704
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:22,639
numbers

2705
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:24,159
is due remember that's just one

2706
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:26,480
dimension that we can see

2707
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:29,440
and there are beyond what we can even

2708
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:30,159
imagine

2709
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:33,119
see use our you know our the different

2710
01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:34,159
camera

2711
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:37,920
the spectrums of like ultraviolet uh

2712
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:40,639
by uh gamma you know all these different

2713
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:41,119
the

2714
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:45,920
visual eyes

2715
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,119
it's such a new tiny spectrum of what

2716
01:44:53,189 --> 01:44:51,600
we even know exists and then beyond that

2717
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:53,199
obviously we're still discovering things

2718
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:54,480
so

2719
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:57,440
basically there is life everywhere all

2720
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,159
around us

2721
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:59,920
right now you know getting beyond going

2722
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:01,280
beyond the linear sense

2723
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,360
so um it really is just the flavor

2724
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,600
is you know the mantis is just a flavor

2725
01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:08,960
it's like an ice cream flavor

2726
01:45:12,310 --> 01:45:10,239
you know you go to the baskin robbins

2727
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:12,320
there's so many flavors and you mix it

2728
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:13,679
up and you get these different flavors

2729
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:15,040
and that's what the hybrids that's what

2730
01:45:19,189 --> 01:45:16,000
we are

2731
01:45:21,910 --> 01:45:19,199
uh we're a hybrid race and you get uh

2732
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:21,920
you know it's really how many how many

2733
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:23,280
different flavors can you make with the

2734
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:25,520
existing flavors and that's and remember

2735
01:45:28,070 --> 01:45:27,280
that's been going on over and over and

2736
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,080
over for

2737
01:45:33,030 --> 01:45:31,199
for eons and that's why there's so much

2738
01:45:35,109 --> 01:45:33,040
life here because it really

2739
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:35,119
it's been it's been going forever and

2740
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:36,239
there's different states like i was

2741
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:37,440
saying before different states of

2742
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:38,800
evolution

2743
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:41,679
where some of these flavors have figured

2744
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:44,320
out how to work together really nicely

2745
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:47,520
and decided to um

2746
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:48,800
actually have seen one of the questions

2747
01:45:55,109 --> 01:45:51,280
here is uh what do they have

2748
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,119
to what do they get out of this right so

2749
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,280
it's kind of like once you've sort of

2750
01:46:02,790 --> 01:45:59,280
figured out the universe

2751
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:02,800
you're kind of um

2752
01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:05,119
and i mean i say this in terms but like

2753
01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:07,760
for us once somebody

2754
01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:09,360
that i know once you're well off you

2755
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:10,880
kind of want to go and do some

2756
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:13,520
some philanthropy work right you want to

2757
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:14,960
go help the rest of the world that's

2758
01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:16,320
that's trying to figure it out and go

2759
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,520
through some issues

2760
01:46:21,030 --> 01:46:19,520
so i think what they get out of it is

2761
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:21,040
that that feeling

2762
01:46:25,910 --> 01:46:24,320
of of um of help

2763
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:25,920
you know helping somebody you know

2764
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:27,760
giving it feels good to give

2765
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,840
and if you have a lot to give then you

2766
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:31,600
want to give as much as you can

2767
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:33,600
um and i think that's just the natural

2768
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,639
law of the universe

2769
01:46:38,070 --> 01:46:36,400
obviously here on this planet we haven't

2770
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:38,080
fully all uh

2771
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:40,800
come to that conclusion um but many of

2772
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:42,719
us are there are many you know well-off

2773
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:43,840
giving people

2774
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:46,880
and i think as we evolve more we'll sort

2775
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:47,440
of all

2776
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:49,280
sort of fall into that that camp it's

2777
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:51,440
just if you have extra you go help those

2778
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:52,080
that

2779
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:55,920
don't have the extra now

2780
01:47:02,149 --> 01:46:59,199
yeah right right and i i

2781
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:02,159
i was listening uh to i talk about brian

2782
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:04,000
green a lot and i talk about sean

2783
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:05,040
carroll a lot

2784
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:08,719
and brian cox and all these rock star

2785
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,480
physicists out there and these quantum

2786
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:12,800
guys that talk about the universe and

2787
01:47:17,189 --> 01:47:15,360
multi-dimensions and multi-worlds and

2788
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:17,199
all of these things and they all discuss

2789
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:20,320
yeah uh et's and and the prospect of

2790
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:20,960
alien

2791
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:24,159
life out there but brian greene

2792
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:27,199
said the other day um why

2793
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:30,159
would now i and by saying what i'm about

2794
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:30,719
to say

2795
01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:32,800
i have seen things in the sky i know

2796
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:34,400
that things are visiting us

2797
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:38,320
and and i am convinced of that fact

2798
01:47:42,149 --> 01:47:40,480
but brian green said the other he goes

2799
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,159
why would

2800
01:47:46,629 --> 01:47:44,639
an intelligent species out there that

2801
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:46,639
can travel the stars and conquer the

2802
01:47:50,310 --> 01:47:47,840
speed of light

2803
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:50,320
have any interest in us why would they

2804
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:51,280
give a crap

2805
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:53,440
about planet earth why would they give

2806
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:56,480
us advice why would they do these things

2807
01:48:03,030 --> 01:47:59,760
and and you have to

2808
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:03,040
respect that comment somewhat

2809
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:06,080
you know why why would they play devil's

2810
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:07,840
advocate

2811
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:14,960
the

2812
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:17,840
ability to travel through space and time

2813
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:19,679
and to go visit past versions of

2814
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:20,800
yourself

2815
01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:23,199
would you not go back and visit those

2816
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:25,040
versions and give them nuggets to make

2817
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:26,960
better choices in their lives

2818
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:30,400
well uh then does that if that is the

2819
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:31,520
case

2820
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:33,840
then why would you want to alter the

2821
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:35,600
future

2822
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:37,679
if it's possible that's really authoring

2823
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,719
the future

2824
01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:40,880
because we again jimmy you're thinking

2825
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:43,199
linearly so

2826
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,199
whatever change you make to the past

2827
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:47,520
it's not going to affect the present

2828
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:50,639
it's going to affect a different version

2829
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:51,600
of the present

2830
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:54,080
but not your present because though they

2831
01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:56,320
aren't as interconnected as you think

2832
01:48:59,510 --> 01:48:58,480
if you if you go back in time and visit

2833
01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:59,520
your 10 year old

2834
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:02,239
version of you you're creating a new

2835
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:03,040
timeline

2836
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:06,239
sure of yourself so that is on its own

2837
01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:09,920
independent line of of evolution

2838
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:11,840
where the ten-year-old version of you

2839
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:13,360
met the future version of you and

2840
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:14,080
started a new

2841
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:16,960
path but doesn't that eliminate you but

2842
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:19,280
that eliminates free will

2843
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:22,159
are you suggesting that well hold on

2844
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,159
this is great i love the conversation

2845
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:26,159
so let's just stay right here it's just

2846
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:28,000
you and i on my back patio right

2847
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:31,199
now reuben okay all right i love it

2848
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:33,040
and the back patio is a special place

2849
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:34,800
and you know that so

2850
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:38,719
yeah which is this are you suggesting

2851
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:42,400
that the future versions of us

2852
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:46,239
that would be here to help us also

2853
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:49,119
went through the advice of the future

2854
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:49,840
versions

2855
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:53,440
of themselves or wouldn't they

2856
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:56,400
want us to have the free will of

2857
01:50:00,550 --> 01:49:57,520
non-interference

2858
01:50:00,790 --> 01:50:00,560
right the prime directive where we need

2859
01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:00,800
to

2860
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:02,880
go back what's happening right right

2861
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:03,840
well

2862
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:05,920
we can't have it both ways that's why

2863
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:07,040
that that's why

2864
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:08,480
that's why they're not landing on the

2865
01:50:12,390 --> 01:50:10,480
white house lawn that's why

2866
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:12,400
we are having this this uh

2867
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:14,400
non-interference and that's why we

2868
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:17,679
as the individual version of us has to

2869
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:19,520
you know in some cases this is how it

2870
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,040
happens a lot people get down on their

2871
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:23,040
hands and knees and pray

2872
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:26,239
for a sign bam you know

2873
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:28,639
the light opens in the sky and there's

2874
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,320
the future version of you

2875
01:50:35,350 --> 01:50:33,599
saying you called um but until we

2876
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:35,360
ask for it we have to invite it and

2877
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:37,199
that's our free will we have to invite

2878
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:38,239
it in

2879
01:50:42,629 --> 01:50:39,920
now some of these beans are very

2880
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:42,639
manipulative and are able to

2881
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:46,320
make us invite them in without uh proper

2882
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,560
you know with going to due process in a

2883
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:50,320
sense

2884
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:52,400
manipulative negative beings that you

2885
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:53,440
know i'm sure you've covered on your

2886
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:53,840
show

2887
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:56,639
right but i think in a sense we are

2888
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:57,760
going through this

2889
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:00,960
um non-interference prime directive

2890
01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:04,480
type uh experience right now and

2891
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,320
i have to initiate contact and we're

2892
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,400
doing that with the c5 experiences

2893
01:51:12,390 --> 01:51:10,880
on the physical level but individually

2894
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:12,400
every time i go into meditation every

2895
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,159
time i go into the dream state

2896
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:16,560
when i set the intention many of us

2897
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:18,320
don't know the power of intention so we

2898
01:51:20,790 --> 01:51:19,760
forget to do it

2899
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,800
and then that's when we get the

2900
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:23,360
boogeyman in the closet but if we set

2901
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:25,040
the intention

2902
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,239
and and basically tune our channel

2903
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:30,639
like a like a channeler to to go into a

2904
01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:33,599
specific frequency

2905
01:51:38,070 --> 01:51:36,239
uh you know what is what is the best you

2906
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:38,080
know sort of i put it in these terms

2907
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:41,760
what is um not with this is without the

2908
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:43,199
insistence on the outcome because if you

2909
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:45,119
want to say i i need to connect with et

2910
01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:46,320
and it has to be this version and blah

2911
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:46,880
blah blah

2912
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:48,880
so but you simply put it you get rid of

2913
01:51:53,910 --> 01:51:50,880
all that then you just simply go with

2914
01:51:55,910 --> 01:51:53,920
okay i want to connect with the highest

2915
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:55,920
version of myself or other versions of

2916
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:56,400
myself

2917
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,960
other et's or whatever it is that can

2918
01:52:03,109 --> 01:52:00,000
aid in

2919
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:03,119
the best for my evolutionary process

2920
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:05,440
which the little me reuben may not

2921
01:52:09,510 --> 01:52:07,440
necessarily know but the big me

2922
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:09,520
the bigger higher version the soul the

2923
01:52:15,669 --> 01:52:12,320
big soul version of me reuben

2924
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:15,679
absolutely knows you know what it wants

2925
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:18,239
and knows how to navigate this this

2926
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:19,040
universal

2927
01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:22,159
earth experience much better than i do

2928
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:24,960
and that's when i ask for that guidance

2929
01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:26,880
and i ask for the signs i ask for the

2930
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:28,159
synchronicities

2931
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:31,199
and then it delivers and i

2932
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:33,440
i have to say since i've been on this

2933
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:34,960
path asking these questions

2934
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:37,199
since 2013 is when i started these

2935
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:38,239
interviews

2936
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:40,960
um integrating a lot of the the

2937
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:42,080
teachings that i've learned through

2938
01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:43,360
these

2939
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:46,560
it's real man it when you

2940
01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:49,679
when you ask and when you surrender

2941
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:52,000
um you know ask it's good to have

2942
01:52:55,750 --> 01:52:53,760
desires and you know you hear the gurus

2943
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:55,760
don't have desires you know don't do

2944
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:58,159
you know don't you even don't lust for

2945
01:53:02,229 --> 01:52:59,119
anything you know

2946
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:02,239
no have desires it's fine

2947
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:05,520
but don't have the uh expectations or

2948
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:05,920
the

2949
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:10,080
unfold a certain way

2950
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:11,920
desires are actually that's what gets

2951
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:13,760
that's fall in our excitement

2952
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:16,320
we need the desires that's that's our uh

2953
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:18,159
our compass to to get us on the

2954
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,000
direction where we need to go

2955
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:22,560
um but then relaxing into you know

2956
01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:24,320
surrendering

2957
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:25,679
on whatever happens whatever the

2958
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,080
universe gives me then what happens is

2959
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,400
your vision opens up and you can see

2960
01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:32,320
the synchronicities you can see

2961
01:53:35,350 --> 01:53:33,440
different things oh

2962
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:35,360
this rabbit or this thing ran out from

2963
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:36,480
my car so i

2964
01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:39,599
um slammed on my brakes and then you

2965
01:53:42,310 --> 01:53:40,480
know

2966
01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:42,320
10 feet ahead a tree falls down the

2967
01:53:45,030 --> 01:53:43,520
middle of the road where i

2968
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:45,040
probably would have been if that rabbit

2969
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:46,960
hadn't landed for me that's an extreme

2970
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,719
case i've had something like that happen

2971
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,480
but that's an extreme case but these

2972
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:51,760
signs are always

2973
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:54,000
showing up in our lives and we just have

2974
01:53:58,709 --> 01:53:55,520
to pay attention

2975
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:58,719
what is the subtlety yeah it is it is

2976
01:54:03,189 --> 01:53:59,040
and

2977
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:03,199
what interests me

2978
01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:06,880
is that the concept

2979
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:10,639
of time just the general concept

2980
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:14,239
everybody out there seems to think that

2981
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:14,800
they

2982
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:18,400
know what time is or what time

2983
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:21,119
isn't right they've got they've got a

2984
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:22,800
total grip

2985
01:54:28,870 --> 01:54:26,400
on uh oh we're in the now now or time is

2986
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:28,880
everything or time is omni or

2987
01:54:36,390 --> 01:54:32,159
or time isn't that time is this or

2988
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,400
right where the the truth is and this is

2989
01:54:41,910 --> 01:54:38,719
where i think that i've got a pretty

2990
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:41,920
good grip on the concept of time

2991
01:54:46,629 --> 01:54:44,960
more so than anybody else um

2992
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:46,639
okay and that that includes the

2993
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:48,080
physicist of the world

2994
01:54:51,189 --> 01:54:50,400
right and the gurus of the world and

2995
01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:51,199
everything else

2996
01:54:55,030 --> 01:54:53,440
is this is what everybody has to

2997
01:54:58,390 --> 01:54:55,040
understand

2998
01:55:02,070 --> 01:54:58,400
um is that time

2999
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:02,080
no matter what as it moves

3000
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:05,440
in any direction in linear sense

3001
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:10,000
or not is always different

3002
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:13,520
as it moves in any direction

3003
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:17,440
backwards forward sideways up and down

3004
01:55:23,750 --> 01:55:20,960
as it as you move through space

3005
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:23,760
time you are moving through ripples of

3006
01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:24,639
gravity

3007
01:55:32,709 --> 01:55:28,159
you're moving through large masses of

3008
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:32,719
of stars and star systems right

3009
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:35,679
and and and at that point time is

3010
01:55:40,310 --> 01:55:37,199
altered

3011
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:40,320
as you move out as you move out beyond

3012
01:55:43,990 --> 01:55:41,199
that

3013
01:55:44,830 --> 01:55:44,000
through the masses and past the masses

3014
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,840
of

3015
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:47,679
galaxies time is altered

3016
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:50,480
right so you have the macro and the

3017
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:51,440
micro

3018
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:54,560
versions of the altering of space

3019
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:58,239
time and time there are no consistencies

3020
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:58,880
of it

3021
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:02,000
and anybody that wants to talk that's it

3022
01:56:06,070 --> 01:56:04,320
that's it anybody that wants to tell me

3023
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:06,080
hey dude you don't get it

3024
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:09,840
no wait a minute you don't understand

3025
01:56:15,109 --> 01:56:12,480
you don't understand crap you know it's

3026
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:15,119
it's really the great sages of the world

3027
01:56:17,589 --> 01:56:15,920
and even the

3028
01:56:19,430 --> 01:56:17,599
the scientists they all say that you

3029
01:56:23,030 --> 01:56:19,440
know the only constant is change really

3030
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:23,040
and and that's why we i mean that's why

3031
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:24,320
we're in the times we're in

3032
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:25,440
is because we're going through this

3033
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,280
massive change uh on the planet

3034
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:31,920
and it's it's uh it's exciting and

3035
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:34,239
terrifying at the same time

3036
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:38,159
it truly is it truly is and

3037
01:56:42,550 --> 01:56:41,040
early on at the beginning of the show

3038
01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:42,560
when i asked you about the ufo

3039
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,480
hypothesis and how your views have

3040
01:56:48,709 --> 01:56:45,840
changed and what e.t

3041
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,719
could be and what we are seeing uh in

3042
01:56:52,229 --> 01:56:50,480
the in the skies today and it is it's

3043
01:56:53,350 --> 01:56:52,239
certainly gone through an evolutionary

3044
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,360
change but

3045
01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:55,679
we're still seeing the consistencies too

3046
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:56,639
as well

3047
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:59,599
where we are seeing actual craft craft

3048
01:57:02,550 --> 01:56:59,920
right

3049
01:57:04,149 --> 01:57:02,560
structures with engines in it so we're

3050
01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:04,159
seeing both

3051
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:07,760
and is that because i don't think

3052
01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:10,480
well the question is this when you're at

3053
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:11,599
a ce5

3054
01:57:15,030 --> 01:57:14,159
event or anybody is out there looking at

3055
01:57:17,270 --> 01:57:15,040
the night sky

3056
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:17,280
and you may see two three four or a

3057
01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:18,239
dozen

3058
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:21,920
things in a single evening chances are

3059
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:25,440
those dozen things that you have seen

3060
01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:28,080
i don't even know each other right

3061
01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:28,719
they're not

3062
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:35,520
the same parts of the universe are they

3063
01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:36,239
that

3064
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:40,960
funny the c5s have evolved

3065
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:45,040
for for me and the groups that i go into

3066
01:57:48,470 --> 01:57:46,800
most of us now are no longer even

3067
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:48,480
concerned with the lights of the sky

3068
01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:50,800
it's not it's just like oh look at that

3069
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:51,760
most of us

3070
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:56,480
are actually having uh deep profound

3071
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:59,920
experiences going on the ships uh in a

3072
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:00,960
sort of an astral

3073
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:03,440
or a meditative uh state you know

3074
01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:05,520
dreamlike thing so it's not like their

3075
01:58:07,990 --> 01:58:06,880
bodies are lifted up and they're on the

3076
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:08,000
ships

3077
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:11,760
but the sharing afterward um

3078
01:58:15,510 --> 01:58:13,679
they're much more in-depth than just

3079
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,520
sort of having a meditation and

3080
01:58:20,149 --> 01:58:17,040
visualizing some things

3081
01:58:23,030 --> 01:58:20,159
people are going full on getting

3082
01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:23,040
you know full-on lessons and detailed

3083
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:24,239
information

3084
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:27,520
uh from from their trips on the ships

3085
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:29,119
and then we get a little physical light

3086
01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:31,440
in the sky as a little confirmation

3087
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:33,119
and then others see it and we can sort

3088
01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:34,719
of describe what we saw

3089
01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:36,080
or whatever and you know oh yeah that

3090
01:58:39,589 --> 01:58:38,080
was that and then you have that one or

3091
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:39,599
two people that were like oh i was on

3092
01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:40,320
the ship

3093
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:41,679
and i went in this room and the other

3094
01:58:46,310 --> 01:58:43,840
person said well i saw the same room

3095
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:46,320
and i and they start describing the

3096
01:58:50,629 --> 01:58:47,599
details of the room

3097
01:58:51,430 --> 01:58:50,639
and they're matching up so the c5

3098
01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:51,440
experiences

3099
01:59:00,790 --> 01:58:55,679
evolved um the just that alone

3100
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:00,800
i think is is getting us closer to

3101
01:59:05,589 --> 01:59:04,320
to this actual physical contact again

3102
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:05,599
some people are having a physical

3103
01:59:09,189 --> 01:59:07,199
contact but i don't think collectively

3104
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:09,199
we can all have the physical contact

3105
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:11,679
until collectively we you know the

3106
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:13,840
majority of us actually believe it

3107
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:16,960
um i subscribed to you know bashar and

3108
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:18,719
many others talk about

3109
01:59:21,910 --> 01:59:21,280
um believing and seeing not seen as

3110
01:59:25,990 --> 01:59:21,920
believing

3111
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:26,000
you you have to have a framework for the

3112
01:59:31,830 --> 01:59:29,520
uh whatever to exist first in your

3113
01:59:34,070 --> 01:59:31,840
consciousness and your in your beingness

3114
01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:34,080
for it to actually show up

3115
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:36,159
and it has to be that way and i'll tell

3116
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:37,280
you why

3117
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:40,960
it has to be the reason why things

3118
01:59:47,109 --> 01:59:44,000
phase out in in in into our

3119
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:47,119
consciousness or into our visual sense

3120
01:59:52,709 --> 01:59:50,400
or even into our dimension in our world

3121
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:52,719
is because it's a chance meeting of the

3122
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:54,320
frequencies

3123
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:57,840
with the only way to get it

3124
02:00:04,310 --> 02:00:01,520
because and i'll tell you why the uh

3125
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:04,320
the reason why we we aren't able

3126
02:00:09,030 --> 02:00:05,760
necessarily to

3127
02:00:10,950 --> 02:00:09,040
pick up on other frequencies

3128
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:10,960
other television broadcasts from the

3129
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:12,560
stars right

3130
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:16,080
and and radio signals is because

3131
02:00:20,229 --> 02:00:18,800
we would have to connect with the

3132
02:00:23,350 --> 02:00:20,239
civilization

3133
02:00:27,189 --> 02:00:23,360
that is on our same time

3134
02:00:31,189 --> 02:00:27,199
scale where everything is at the same

3135
02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:31,199
speed you have to grasp that concept

3136
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:34,560
for a second there's a reason why uh

3137
02:00:37,750 --> 02:00:36,320
you know these fast radio bursts or

3138
02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:37,760
these radio signals

3139
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:40,800
that may be out there or just

3140
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:44,000
beyond our ability to to

3141
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:47,760
see it could just be noise to us

3142
02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:49,520
right it could just be background

3143
02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:50,800
interference

3144
02:00:57,270 --> 02:00:54,960
and and it's just not using this example

3145
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,280
i'm sorry i used this example so you

3146
02:01:00,310 --> 02:00:59,199
know back uh well who's the the

3147
02:01:03,510 --> 02:01:00,320
integration guy

3148
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,520
the um uh the old guy from the from the

3149
02:01:07,350 --> 02:01:05,520
60s who had all the ufo events out there

3150
02:01:11,109 --> 02:01:07,360
what was his name

3151
02:01:13,510 --> 02:01:11,119
george george van tassel

3152
02:01:14,950 --> 02:01:13,520
yes george van passel so you have george

3153
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:14,960
van tassel many others

3154
02:01:21,189 --> 02:01:18,320
from that era in the 60s described

3155
02:01:21,830 --> 02:01:21,199
their contact experiences from venetians

3156
02:01:24,310 --> 02:01:21,840
right

3157
02:01:25,270 --> 02:01:24,320
from the planet from venus these beings

3158
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,280
would come down

3159
02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:27,280
in the craft and they had you know the

3160
02:01:30,310 --> 02:01:29,280
slick jumpsuits and the blue eyes and

3161
02:01:32,229 --> 02:01:30,320
the green

3162
02:01:33,350 --> 02:01:32,239
you know whatever um sort of

3163
02:01:34,790 --> 02:01:33,360
palladium-ish

3164
02:01:36,790 --> 02:01:34,800
beans and you have different people

3165
02:01:39,910 --> 02:01:36,800
describing radiance but

3166
02:01:42,550 --> 02:01:39,920
the over the period of time the

3167
02:01:45,109 --> 02:01:42,560
the types of beings that that it seems

3168
02:01:47,030 --> 02:01:45,119
like humanity's interacting with

3169
02:01:48,629 --> 02:01:47,040
change and differ and i think that goes

3170
02:01:50,550 --> 02:01:48,639
back to what you're saying with

3171
02:01:51,750 --> 02:01:50,560
yes we're having different beans from

3172
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:51,760
different time periods

3173
02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:54,960
interacting with humanity to help us

3174
02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:58,480
resolve you know these evolutionary

3175
02:02:02,070 --> 02:02:00,159
pickups or jumps that we're going

3176
02:02:04,790 --> 02:02:02,080
through

3177
02:02:05,910 --> 02:02:04,800
individually and collectively so yes the

3178
02:02:07,910 --> 02:02:05,920
the beings we interact

3179
02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:07,920
with are going to evolve right now you

3180
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:10,560
don't see that many future humans maybe

3181
02:02:14,709 --> 02:02:13,440
maybe um you can ask um sergeant

3182
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:14,719
penderson tomorrow

3183
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,960
uh you know because i know he doesn't

3184
02:02:19,510 --> 02:02:18,159
believe they were e.t he thinks they

3185
02:02:22,229 --> 02:02:19,520
were future humans

3186
02:02:23,189 --> 02:02:22,239
but um we i believe we do have future

3187
02:02:27,669 --> 02:02:23,199
humans

3188
02:02:29,109 --> 02:02:27,679
us but on a very limited scale but you

3189
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:29,119
have to ask well why wouldn't they if

3190
02:02:32,470 --> 02:02:30,400
they had the ability to travel in time

3191
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:32,480
when why wouldn't they interact more

3192
02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:34,000
with us why are we having more e.t

3193
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:36,159
contact and i think that's just because

3194
02:02:40,629 --> 02:02:38,880
of where we're at with our evolution in

3195
02:02:42,310 --> 02:02:40,639
the in the future maybe we will be

3196
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:42,320
interacting more with future versions of

3197
02:02:45,589 --> 02:02:43,040
ourselves

3198
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:45,599
or other eq races different e.t races

3199
02:02:48,709 --> 02:02:47,520
from other parts of the universe that we

3200
02:02:50,709 --> 02:02:48,719
don't even know yet

3201
02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:50,719
but they're here to help us because

3202
02:02:54,229 --> 02:02:51,840
that's

3203
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:54,239
more of a resonance of where we are at

3204
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:56,560
with our specific evolution

3205
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:00,400
and i would think that uh

3206
02:03:04,790 --> 02:03:03,520
if uh and i'm gonna talk to jim about

3207
02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:04,800
this tomorrow for sure

3208
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:07,679
but when we there are there are so many

3209
02:03:12,629 --> 02:03:09,760
versions of time travel but

3210
02:03:13,189 --> 02:03:12,639
most people think of the concept like

3211
02:03:15,910 --> 02:03:13,199
h.g

3212
02:03:16,870 --> 02:03:15,920
wells right time machine mechanical

3213
02:03:20,229 --> 02:03:16,880
device you are

3214
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:20,239
physically moving uh your body

3215
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,560
to another point in time for an

3216
02:03:25,510 --> 02:03:24,239
experience and you are there in the

3217
02:03:27,510 --> 02:03:25,520
physical

3218
02:03:29,030 --> 02:03:27,520
there there's a there's a danger with

3219
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:29,040
that there's two dangers

3220
02:03:35,669 --> 02:03:32,320
one the earth is orbiting the sun and

3221
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:35,679
so you would have to

3222
02:03:39,669 --> 02:03:38,639
know exactly where the earth is going to

3223
02:03:43,350 --> 02:03:39,679
be

3224
02:03:44,149 --> 02:03:43,360
at that moment in time and and where you

3225
02:03:46,790 --> 02:03:44,159
are going to be

3226
02:03:48,790 --> 02:03:46,800
on the earth in order to arrive there if

3227
02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:48,800
you are making a physical move

3228
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:52,000
that's a very difficult concept too and

3229
02:03:55,669 --> 02:03:53,599
a technical leap

3230
02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:55,679
that i don't think that we have a grasp

3231
02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:56,880
of but then there's

3232
02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:59,119
the other there's another consideration

3233
02:04:03,030 --> 02:03:59,920
oh yeah

3234
02:04:06,069 --> 02:04:03,040
and the other consideration is the

3235
02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:06,079
universe is balanced it knows

3236
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:08,400
how many particles are there at any

3237
02:04:12,950 --> 02:04:09,599
given time

3238
02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:12,960
if you go and remove yourself from the

3239
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:13,360
now

3240
02:04:22,550 --> 02:04:19,520
and move to another point in time those

3241
02:04:23,510 --> 02:04:22,560
particles those atoms are now missing in

3242
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:23,520
the universe

3243
02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:26,560
now and are placed in another point in

3244
02:04:29,669 --> 02:04:27,040
time

3245
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:29,679
in the universe where the universe is

3246
02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:31,040
not expecting

3247
02:04:38,149 --> 02:04:35,520
sudden new particles and atoms to appear

3248
02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:38,159
it's going to upset the actual balance

3249
02:04:43,589 --> 02:04:40,320
of the universe and i'm talking about

3250
02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:43,599
uh universal destruction like a a

3251
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:46,880
a a universal black hole

3252
02:04:53,750 --> 02:04:50,320
uh implosion i i just i don't

3253
02:04:56,390 --> 02:04:53,760
think that changing atoms

3254
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:56,400
uh from one point of the universe in

3255
02:04:59,189 --> 02:04:56,800
time

3256
02:05:01,350 --> 02:04:59,199
and moving them to another point is a

3257
02:05:02,069 --> 02:05:01,360
zone that you want to scientifically go

3258
02:05:04,069 --> 02:05:02,079
into

3259
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:04,079
you don't know what the the catastrophic

3260
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:05,520
results of that would be

3261
02:05:11,990 --> 02:05:08,719
you would have to do it in another way

3262
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,000
another timeline or not actually your

3263
02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:14,719
physical self

3264
02:05:18,149 --> 02:05:17,440
well my my take is that every time we do

3265
02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:18,159
make those

3266
02:05:22,149 --> 02:05:20,159
so for example we can look at an et

3267
02:05:24,069 --> 02:05:22,159
crash sort of phasing in

3268
02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:24,079
and then phasing out of our of our

3269
02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:25,360
existence you know

3270
02:05:28,390 --> 02:05:26,960
i've seen them i've seen them literally

3271
02:05:32,310 --> 02:05:28,400
show up and then disappear

3272
02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:32,320
i have too um and

3273
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:34,639
my take is in the future and we can

3274
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:35,840
we're starting to do this now with sort

3275
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:36,880
of 3d scanning

3276
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:39,840
but can you imagine a 3d scanner that

3277
02:05:44,149 --> 02:05:40,800
can

3278
02:05:46,310 --> 02:05:44,159
the physical

3279
02:05:48,149 --> 02:05:46,320
the way the light's hitting it but down

3280
02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:48,159
to the molecular structure what every

3281
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:50,000
atom is and its placement and everything

3282
02:05:52,950 --> 02:05:50,719
else and

3283
02:05:54,229 --> 02:05:52,960
you know the the frequency and vibration

3284
02:05:56,390 --> 02:05:54,239
of so to say

3285
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:56,400
like in my room right now with my my

3286
02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:57,840
voice coming out and

3287
02:06:01,350 --> 02:05:59,840
these things happening at this time and

3288
02:06:02,870 --> 02:06:01,360
i don't think there's any other space

3289
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:02,880
time now moment that has

3290
02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:05,840
everything in configured it's sort of

3291
02:06:10,390 --> 02:06:06,400
its own

3292
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:10,400
um universal uh thumbprint

3293
02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:12,400
it is right now and then right now and

3294
02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:14,000
right now we all have these unique

3295
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:17,119
time stamp thumb prints based on all of

3296
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:19,360
the elements in the now moment

3297
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:22,719
and i this is my belief from my research

3298
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:26,560
is that the zt craft have the ability

3299
02:06:30,709 --> 02:06:29,119
like a super ai computer that could

3300
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:30,719
actually

3301
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:33,760
project uh these

3302
02:06:36,870 --> 02:06:35,840
we would say coordinates but it's

3303
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:36,880
actually a

3304
02:06:43,430 --> 02:06:40,239
like a 3d printer or or a projection of

3305
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:43,440
all of this data that has all of the

3306
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:47,119
uh signature moments of the frequency

3307
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:49,520
and it projects it and then like bob

3308
02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:50,560
lazar talks about

3309
02:06:53,750 --> 02:06:52,560
it literally just falls in like gravity

3310
02:06:57,669 --> 02:06:53,760
weights falls forward

3311
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:57,679
into this projected hologram that it

3312
02:07:01,750 --> 02:07:00,480
created and that is how these crafts

3313
02:07:04,550 --> 02:07:01,760
sort of show up in our

3314
02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:04,560
reality without breaking the space-time

3315
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:06,079
consumer so to say

3316
02:07:10,870 --> 02:07:08,320
because they're in their own gravity

3317
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:10,880
wave bubble so they're still independent

3318
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:13,360
of our reality but they're visually able

3319
02:07:16,709 --> 02:07:14,880
to show up because they can

3320
02:07:19,189 --> 02:07:16,719
interact in that sense and then they

3321
02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:19,199
have the ability to

3322
02:07:24,229 --> 02:07:22,400
again sort of project this the version

3323
02:07:26,709 --> 02:07:24,239
of their reality that they need to

3324
02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:26,719
get back to right that they came from

3325
02:07:31,669 --> 02:07:28,159
let's take a break

3326
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:31,679
going into overtime and

3327
02:07:35,109 --> 02:07:34,000
because i know you're in lockdown and

3328
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:35,119
you've got nothing

3329
02:07:41,109 --> 02:07:39,360
to do tomorrow so just stay right there

3330
02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:41,119
stay right there reuben this is fade to

3331
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:42,800
black i am your host jimmy church our

3332
02:07:45,589 --> 02:07:43,679
guest tonight

3333
02:07:47,910 --> 02:07:45,599
ruben langdon what a great conversation

3334
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:47,920
we're talking about his new series

3335
02:07:53,270 --> 02:07:51,840
interviews with ed extra dimensionals

3336
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:53,280
we'll pick up where we're leaving off

3337
02:07:55,750 --> 02:07:54,880
right now when we come back after this

3338
02:07:59,350 --> 02:07:55,760
short break

3339
02:08:12,790 --> 02:07:59,360
on the game changer network and kgra

3340
02:08:16,950 --> 02:08:14,470
welcome back fade to black i'm the old

3341
02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:16,960
chippy church

3342
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:19,599
our conversation tonight is with ron

3343
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:20,320
reuben

3344
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:33,270
for that coffee wouldn't that have been

3345
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:34,719
funny if i just uh

3346
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:37,679
just uh popped out with rob g so this is

3347
02:08:44,470 --> 02:08:38,480
the thing

3348
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:44,480
um i think are you a frank zappa fan

3349
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,800
i i can't say i'm a huge fan i

3350
02:08:52,550 --> 02:08:48,480
appreciate the music but i'm

3351
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:52,560
i'm very uh very electronica in my

3352
02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:55,920
in my uh electronics i heard all the

3353
02:09:00,069 --> 02:08:58,000
things brings up a talk earlier

3354
02:09:01,430 --> 02:09:00,079
i appreciate it i know i know he was an

3355
02:09:04,709 --> 02:09:01,440
amazing

3356
02:09:07,189 --> 02:09:04,719
music scene

3357
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:07,199
you need to you know what i would do you

3358
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:09,119
know what i would do if i was you

3359
02:09:12,310 --> 02:09:11,440
uh take out a pen i want you to write

3360
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:12,320
down two things

3361
02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:16,000
three things i want you to write down

3362
02:09:24,229 --> 02:09:20,079
joe's garage acts one and two

3363
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:24,239
acts one and two that's the first album

3364
02:09:32,709 --> 02:09:27,520
uh then i want you to write down

3365
02:09:37,270 --> 02:09:32,719
one size fits all okay

3366
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:37,280
okay now those two albums i want you to

3367
02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:40,560
uh oh and one more sheik

3368
02:09:48,750 --> 02:09:43,760
all right sheik as in arab chic

3369
02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:48,760
okay your booty y-o-u-r

3370
02:09:53,030 --> 02:09:51,280
b-o-u-t-i i think it is what it is shake

3371
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:53,040
your booty it's one word

3372
02:09:56,709 --> 02:09:55,679
okay those three albums i want you to

3373
02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:56,719
listen to those

3374
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:01,040
albums as you edit tomorrow

3375
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:03,199
okay you're in the middle of an edit

3376
02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:04,800
session right you're in the middle of an

3377
02:10:07,750 --> 02:10:05,679
edit session

3378
02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:07,760
so i want you to listen to those three

3379
02:10:12,310 --> 02:10:08,800
albums

3380
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:12,320
and then get back to me okay you got it

3381
02:10:15,510 --> 02:10:14,400
now i'm talking about a paradigm shift

3382
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:15,520
in your existence

3383
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,199
is going to occur okay all right

3384
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:21,040
sorry i'll be i'm open to it i know you

3385
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,880
are i know you are i know you are

3386
02:10:26,069 --> 02:10:24,639
now uh now let's get back to the

3387
02:10:28,149 --> 02:10:26,079
conversation

3388
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,159
you you brought up jim penniston which i

3389
02:10:31,430 --> 02:10:30,159
was going to do about a half hour ago

3390
02:10:32,870 --> 02:10:31,440
and then you brought him up at the end

3391
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,880
of the show and i thought that that was

3392
02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:34,560
uh pretty interesting uh that the

3393
02:10:40,310 --> 02:10:37,199
universe reached out to us like that

3394
02:10:42,390 --> 02:10:40,320
jim peniston with all of the

3395
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:42,400
conversation about rendell shim and ben

3396
02:10:47,990 --> 02:10:44,159
waters and woodbridge

3397
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,000
uh about the e.t aspect of this

3398
02:10:52,229 --> 02:10:50,880
and i'm still on that side of the fence

3399
02:10:56,629 --> 02:10:52,239
by the way

3400
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:56,639
but jim against all odds

3401
02:11:02,149 --> 02:10:59,920
and all of the pressure and interference

3402
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:02,159
from everybody there not only the other

3403
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:03,760
witnesses that were there

3404
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:05,599
but the other researchers that have been

3405
02:11:10,790 --> 02:11:07,360
looking into this case

3406
02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:10,800
uh from the beginning and jim has gone

3407
02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:12,560
against the grain and said hey

3408
02:11:17,669 --> 02:11:15,199
we need to pump the brakes here i

3409
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:17,679
touched the craft i got a download it's

3410
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:19,360
not e.t

3411
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,880
that they told me that they were us from

3412
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:24,320
the future

3413
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:26,159
and that that went against the grain

3414
02:11:30,550 --> 02:11:27,840
didn't it and but he has

3415
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:30,560
he has stuck to it over the years and

3416
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:32,159
this is going to be the central part of

3417
02:11:38,229 --> 02:11:34,639
our conversation uh tomorrow night

3418
02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:38,239
but uh yeah how interesting is that for

3419
02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:42,000
jim to to you know stick to

3420
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:44,560
what he believes the experience was for

3421
02:11:48,229 --> 02:11:46,560
him right

3422
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:48,239
well he should know more than anybody i

3423
02:11:52,709 --> 02:11:49,679
mean he he's the one who

3424
02:11:53,750 --> 02:11:52,719
who got the downloads right he touched

3425
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:53,760
the craft

3426
02:11:58,950 --> 02:11:56,880
i i know burroughs uh was also

3427
02:12:00,870 --> 02:11:58,960
you know affected many people were

3428
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:00,880
affected by it but he

3429
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:04,400
he seemed to be had gotten the closest

3430
02:12:08,470 --> 02:12:07,520
uh i believe him and before when i first

3431
02:12:09,510 --> 02:12:08,480
you know when i was producing the

3432
02:12:11,589 --> 02:12:09,520
citizen hearing

3433
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:11,599
i thought for sure too oh it's just et's

3434
02:12:16,149 --> 02:12:13,040
he doesn't know what he's talking about

3435
02:12:20,709 --> 02:12:16,159
but but the more i've expanded my

3436
02:12:23,350 --> 02:12:20,719
my my visual uh idea of what all this is

3437
02:12:25,270 --> 02:12:23,360
it absolutely makes actually more sense

3438
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:25,280
that it would be us from the future

3439
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:27,679
in those sense in that way yeah and

3440
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:29,280
you've analyzed

3441
02:12:33,750 --> 02:12:31,920
uh of course not only going back to the

3442
02:12:36,149 --> 02:12:33,760
citizens hearing but you've looked

3443
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:36,159
into this and other ufo cases over the

3444
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:37,119
years

3445
02:12:40,709 --> 02:12:39,360
and the one thing that i find

3446
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:40,719
interesting i want to know if you've

3447
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,840
gotten the same

3448
02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:44,400
come to the same conclusion is that when

3449
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:46,560
you speak to anybody there

3450
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:50,079
and that was there and listen to their

3451
02:12:55,350 --> 02:12:53,040
testimony everybody's got a different

3452
02:12:57,270 --> 02:12:55,360
experience when it comes to rendleship

3453
02:12:59,510 --> 02:12:57,280
and i find that very interesting don't

3454
02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:01,589
yeah yeah i mean there's certain key

3455
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:03,040
things that add up but

3456
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:05,920
yeah there's you know this going back to

3457
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:07,040
this uh

3458
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:08,639
idea you were talking before the break

3459
02:13:11,830 --> 02:13:10,400
about how

3460
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:11,840
everything is in constant change in

3461
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:13,679
constant flux and then somebody

3462
02:13:17,430 --> 02:13:15,920
in the chat said relativity right the

3463
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:17,440
einstein's relativity

3464
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:19,119
we're all seeing the world through a

3465
02:13:22,069 --> 02:13:21,280
unique lens and then when you start

3466
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,079
adding

3467
02:13:25,109 --> 02:13:24,480
extra dimensional you know whether it's

3468
02:13:26,709 --> 02:13:25,119
a being

3469
02:13:29,030 --> 02:13:26,719
or us from the future or different

3470
02:13:30,069 --> 02:13:29,040
artifacts that lens is going to get very

3471
02:13:32,870 --> 02:13:30,079
distorted

3472
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:32,880
because it is so different the

3473
02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:34,320
space-time

3474
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:36,239
jump or the frequency our unique

3475
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:39,280
frequency i mean we have a hard time

3476
02:13:43,669 --> 02:13:42,320
you know telling how an accident a

3477
02:13:45,030 --> 02:13:43,679
traffic accident happens even when

3478
02:13:45,669 --> 02:13:45,040
there's like five different cameras on

3479
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:45,679
it

3480
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:47,440
where we try to tell that retell that

3481
02:13:50,470 --> 02:13:48,880
story

3482
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:50,480
let alone introduce some kind of extra

3483
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:52,560
dimensional being or effect or whatever

3484
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:53,440
that's that's not

3485
02:13:57,910 --> 02:13:55,440
part of our normal paradigm we're all

3486
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:57,920
gonna have a very different

3487
02:14:01,510 --> 02:14:00,800
take on what it is and the feelings we

3488
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:01,520
have

3489
02:14:04,629 --> 02:14:03,280
and that's that's just the way it is

3490
02:14:06,550 --> 02:14:04,639
it's to be expected and

3491
02:14:07,990 --> 02:14:06,560
like i said until we all collectively

3492
02:14:11,669 --> 02:14:08,000
can start to

3493
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:11,679
first agree that et's exist

3494
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:17,910
until then can we actually start having

3495
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:19,440
the experience

3496
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:23,199
more uh regularly in a in a in a linear

3497
02:14:26,069 --> 02:14:25,040
sense where we have the same being show

3498
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:26,079
up over and over

3499
02:14:30,229 --> 02:14:27,280
you know and can have these

3500
02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:30,239
communications with them until then

3501
02:14:34,629 --> 02:14:33,040
it's the wild wild west and it's not a

3502
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:34,639
bad thing it's just that's the way it is

3503
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:38,880
it's the construct of reality i uh

3504
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:41,280
many years ago i went through uh a

3505
02:14:46,390 --> 02:14:42,880
couple of months

3506
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:46,400
of speaking to i'm not gonna name names

3507
02:14:52,629 --> 02:14:48,800
but i'll say this in a general sense

3508
02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,639
speaking to everybody that was involved

3509
02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:54,560
in rendlesham

3510
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:57,360
including the original journalist and

3511
02:15:01,830 --> 02:14:58,320
everybody that was

3512
02:15:05,270 --> 02:15:01,840
involved from just about day one and and

3513
02:15:08,870 --> 02:15:05,280
everybody there right and

3514
02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:08,880
trying to attempt

3515
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:11,360
to just to get everybody together and

3516
02:15:15,030 --> 02:15:11,920
let's just

3517
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:15,040
it out yeah

3518
02:15:20,629 --> 02:15:18,159
it wasn't going to happen i could not

3519
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:20,639
believe and i was just and i said to

3520
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:23,040
every single one of them come on man

3521
02:15:26,870 --> 02:15:25,119
you guys were all there over those three

3522
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:26,880
days you guys went through this

3523
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:28,159
experience together

3524
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:30,960
it's okay to have different memories or

3525
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:32,320
different experiences

3526
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:34,000
but don't you think it's best for the

3527
02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:35,440
community to

3528
02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:42,310
wow well that's that's kind of like

3529
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:43,760
that's why we have such

3530
02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:46,800
wide you know opinions in the ufo

3531
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:51,040
uh arena and uh not to

3532
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:53,199
discredit discrete or tell anybody that

3533
02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:54,320
they're wrong i i

3534
02:15:57,510 --> 02:15:56,400
truly think that we all are experiencing

3535
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,520
things the way we're experiencing

3536
02:16:02,790 --> 02:15:59,679
because it is such a vast

3537
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:02,800
big world of uh beyond this world

3538
02:16:06,790 --> 02:16:04,800
you know the unseen veil it's it's

3539
02:16:09,750 --> 02:16:06,800
infinite in its possibilities

3540
02:16:10,390 --> 02:16:09,760
and it going back to the storytelling

3541
02:16:11,990 --> 02:16:10,400
idea

3542
02:16:14,069 --> 02:16:12,000
this is one of the reasons why i've

3543
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:14,079
chosen to focus on these channelers and

3544
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:17,199
the story that's coming through

3545
02:16:24,069 --> 02:16:21,679
uh in that in this manner is because

3546
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:24,079
you know i i said this i put this out

3547
02:16:28,790 --> 02:16:25,199
the other day but

3548
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:28,800
i honestly can't think of a better story

3549
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,479
for humanity like if i if there is one

3550
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:34,080
in a positive sense right if there is

3551
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:35,599
one where where we all win

3552
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:38,639
where you know discrimination and

3553
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:42,160
judgment of others goes away and it is

3554
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:43,200
you know a lot of people like well

3555
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:44,880
that's very utopian that's like never

3556
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:45,679
going to happen

3557
02:16:51,669 --> 02:16:49,120
but that's where i put my focus and i

3558
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:51,679
and i see it as a possibility as it not

3559
02:16:56,389 --> 02:16:53,439
being a possibility

3560
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:56,399
you know at least i'm leaving the door

3561
02:16:58,469 --> 02:16:56,800
open

3562
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:58,479
so that can happen as opposed to

3563
02:17:03,190 --> 02:17:00,639
shutting the door to that reality

3564
02:17:03,910 --> 02:17:03,200
so i like to tell the story through my

3565
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:03,920
lens

3566
02:17:08,070 --> 02:17:06,559
in picking these channelers that also

3567
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:08,080
and you know like adam apollo and also

3568
02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:09,679
these others that are telling the same

3569
02:17:13,750 --> 02:17:10,399
story

3570
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:13,760
right so we can get closer to that

3571
02:17:17,750 --> 02:17:15,040
because the more i think we

3572
02:17:19,429 --> 02:17:17,760
focus on that it's my understanding how

3573
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:19,439
the construct of reality works is

3574
02:17:23,429 --> 02:17:22,319
it it all exists it's all there the the

3575
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,439
all these different versions of the

3576
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:25,040
regular forest

3577
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:28,479
they are true realities to focus on i

3578
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:30,399
know it's a big thing to wrap our head

3579
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:31,120
around

3580
02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:33,359
but when we understand that we're

3581
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:35,439
changing a billion times a second every

3582
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:36,240
second

3583
02:17:40,070 --> 02:17:38,160
individually and then collectively think

3584
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:40,080
of you know multiply that billion by

3585
02:17:44,469 --> 02:17:42,399
another seven billion uh

3586
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:44,479
every second there's all these doorways

3587
02:17:47,190 --> 02:17:46,240
to other dimensional realities and

3588
02:17:48,709 --> 02:17:47,200
experiences

3589
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:48,719
the butterfly effect where you move one

3590
02:17:53,110 --> 02:17:50,479
thing here the whole thing changes

3591
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,120
like that i think that's how it works

3592
02:17:58,389 --> 02:17:54,960
and i think the more we can

3593
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,399
collectively focus on a specific path of

3594
02:18:02,070 --> 02:18:00,479
positivity and uplifting each other as

3595
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:02,080
opposed to doom and gloom

3596
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:05,359
then that's the direction we'll go even

3597
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:06,000
though

3598
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:10,240
complete impossibility

3599
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:14,479
right it's not impossible

3600
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:17,280
i mean it's a highly unlikely yeah

3601
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:19,359
highly unlikely but physics says

3602
02:18:24,309 --> 02:18:20,800
anything is possible

3603
02:18:26,389 --> 02:18:24,319
so even anything possible right let's go

3604
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,399
let's go there there's no impossible i

3605
02:18:30,309 --> 02:18:28,080
share i share your vision

3606
02:18:32,150 --> 02:18:30,319
in that i i truly do and i speak about

3607
02:18:35,190 --> 02:18:32,160
it so often and and i

3608
02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:35,200
realize uh the the goal

3609
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:38,719
may be always just out of reach

3610
02:18:42,469 --> 02:18:40,719
but you have to do that you have to go

3611
02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:42,479
into that direction

3612
02:18:48,870 --> 02:18:46,000
and and in that are you suggesting

3613
02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:48,880
that you have found your bliss is this

3614
02:18:53,830 --> 02:18:51,200
your happiness

3615
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:53,840
you know jimmy i have not been any more

3616
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,319
happy

3617
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:55,920
i'm the happiest now in my life that

3618
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:57,359
i've ever been

3619
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:00,719
and it's

3620
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:03,439
in in it's it's a really awesome place

3621
02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:04,559
to be

3622
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:11,840
appreciate

3623
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:13,920
you know my health i know there's many

3624
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:16,080
who aren't as fortunate

3625
02:19:21,429 --> 02:19:18,399
but i have to say i've been in some

3626
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:21,439
unfortunate situations

3627
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:24,719
and i've been able to work out of them

3628
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:26,639
following these these these these

3629
02:19:31,110 --> 02:19:28,719
guidelines these uh the formula

3630
02:19:32,709 --> 02:19:31,120
which bashar likes to say you know that

3631
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:32,719
i'm following the formula

3632
02:19:37,589 --> 02:19:35,760
of following my excitement uh no no

3633
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:37,599
insistence on the outcome

3634
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,280
um you know uh

3635
02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:43,439
just doing what what i enjoy and what i

3636
02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:45,120
love and doing it with integrity of

3637
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:46,479
course

3638
02:19:51,590 --> 02:19:50,399
and the it's just it's got it's been my

3639
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:51,600
guiding light

3640
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:53,520
to lead me to where i am now which is

3641
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,200
again this i can't say it

3642
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:57,680
is the happiest moment i'm in constant

3643
02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:58,720
bliss

3644
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:01,359
the happiest moments of my life is i've

3645
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:02,880
had some pretty highlighted moments in

3646
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:04,160
my life yes you have

3647
02:20:08,469 --> 02:20:07,200
my friend yes you have um and for

3648
02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:08,479
anybody out there

3649
02:20:13,670 --> 02:20:11,600
uh that goes to a a conference

3650
02:20:15,670 --> 02:20:13,680
and you single out reuben you're going

3651
02:20:18,950 --> 02:20:15,680
to see him he's got a camera crew

3652
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:18,960
he's he's documenting he's interviewing

3653
02:20:22,710 --> 02:20:22,000
and your interest in in in this and

3654
02:20:25,750 --> 02:20:22,720
trying to find

3655
02:20:28,150 --> 02:20:25,760
answers is is first and foremost in your

3656
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:28,160
life and when you find that bliss

3657
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:31,600
that that's the most important part and

3658
02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:33,439
people need to see that side of you

3659
02:20:37,349 --> 02:20:34,960
because it is genuine

3660
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:37,359
you are out there really getting it done

3661
02:20:43,429 --> 02:20:40,160
um but i want to get back to your point

3662
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:43,439
is is this community is ufology the

3663
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:44,399
community

3664
02:20:48,070 --> 02:20:47,280
is it like the barber shop right where

3665
02:20:52,389 --> 02:20:48,080
we

3666
02:20:57,910 --> 02:20:52,399
to

3667
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:57,920
no matter how out there they may be for

3668
02:21:02,950 --> 02:21:00,000
somebody else to listen to

3669
02:21:03,910 --> 02:21:02,960
this is the place where we can come and

3670
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:03,920
and share

3671
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:07,760
and and without fear

3672
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:10,960
i think it i it it's not quite that it

3673
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:12,240
should i think it

3674
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:15,760
could be and it should be because

3675
02:21:19,349 --> 02:21:17,760
you know somebody's going to resonate

3676
02:21:20,469 --> 02:21:19,359
there's there's there's something for

3677
02:21:22,150 --> 02:21:20,479
everybody out there

3678
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:22,160
and just because what i'm saying may not

3679
02:21:24,550 --> 02:21:23,600
resonate with the other people and what

3680
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:24,560
other people may not

3681
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:25,680
what other people are saying may not

3682
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,680
resonate with everyone that's

3683
02:21:31,830 --> 02:21:30,399
that's okay wouldn't what a boring world

3684
02:21:33,830 --> 02:21:31,840
we'd have if we all

3685
02:21:35,510 --> 02:21:33,840
you know spoke the same language did the

3686
02:21:37,750 --> 02:21:35,520
same ate the same foods

3687
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:37,760
spilled the same story about ufology

3688
02:21:41,429 --> 02:21:38,560
like that would be

3689
02:21:43,110 --> 02:21:41,439
boring it's exciting because it is the

3690
02:21:46,309 --> 02:21:43,120
barbershop in a sense

3691
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:46,319
and if we can allow it

3692
02:21:49,590 --> 02:21:48,000
the more we can allow it to be the

3693
02:21:52,790 --> 02:21:49,600
barbershop and

3694
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:52,800
and not jump on everybody's case when

3695
02:21:58,150 --> 02:21:55,359
they have a different idea

3696
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:58,160
i think the more exciting it'll be the

3697
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:00,479
more fun we'll have

3698
02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:04,080
i i agree with that

3699
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:06,000
you know i totally agree and then we

3700
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:07,600
have the other side of the fence

3701
02:22:12,309 --> 02:22:11,280
which is like the series interviews with

3702
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:12,319
ed

3703
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:15,600
because well hold on hear me out hear me

3704
02:22:21,110 --> 02:22:17,200
out for a second

3705
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:21,120
because for those out there

3706
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:23,200
that may have heard of channeling most

3707
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:25,200
people have never heard of jane roberts

3708
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:27,760
certainly outside of ufology nobody's

3709
02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:28,560
heard of

3710
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:30,319
you know outside of the awakening

3711
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:32,720
community nobody's heard of jane roberts

3712
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:35,280
nobody knows what a channeler is you

3713
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:37,040
know we're talking about

3714
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:39,840
uh circus acts you know that's the way

3715
02:22:41,990 --> 02:22:41,200
that they would look at something like

3716
02:22:45,510 --> 02:22:42,000
this

3717
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:45,520
but for those that would see or

3718
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:47,840
that haven't seen interviews with ed but

3719
02:22:53,110 --> 02:22:48,640
they go

3720
02:22:56,790 --> 02:22:53,120
and watch it now you're going to have to

3721
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,800
uh present your case as to why they need

3722
02:23:02,389 --> 02:22:58,960
to consider this as part of

3723
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:02,399
our reality how do you do that

3724
02:23:05,830 --> 02:23:05,359
right we're not in the barber shop now

3725
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:05,840
we

3726
02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:10,160
there interviews with that isn't for

3727
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:11,120
everybody

3728
02:23:14,950 --> 02:23:13,840
this isn't a project blue book on

3729
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:14,960
history channel

3730
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:18,000
right this is this is a whole another

3731
02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:18,399
kind of

3732
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:20,319
soon becoming though it's soon becoming

3733
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:21,680
it was actually i don't know about

3734
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:23,680
season two right now but season one last

3735
02:23:28,150 --> 02:23:24,880
year when it came out

3736
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,160
was the number one watched uh gaia show

3737
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:32,550
so there's a lot of people that are

3738
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:34,880
resonating with this story

3739
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:38,319
but how do you how do you speak to

3740
02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:41,439
somebody with a very limited reality

3741
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:45,760
right that that you are going to

3742
02:23:52,309 --> 02:23:49,120
present this series to them and this is

3743
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:52,319
why they need to pay attention to it

3744
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:55,520
and again to accept it as part of

3745
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:57,520
of their reality on this planet how do

3746
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:00,319
you do that

3747
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:03,040
well i'd say first go listen to jimmy

3748
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:04,399
church and go listen to all the

3749
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:06,160
wonderful guests he has

3750
02:24:09,670 --> 02:24:08,800
and um and then if and then if you're

3751
02:24:11,510 --> 02:24:09,680
still curious

3752
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:11,520
after listening to my spiel and

3753
02:24:16,870 --> 02:24:13,600
everything then

3754
02:24:18,550 --> 02:24:16,880
then go then go there but it it is

3755
02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:18,560
you're right it's not for everyone it is

3756
02:24:22,950 --> 02:24:19,439
sort of a

3757
02:24:25,030 --> 02:24:22,960
a quantum leap in in uh your typical

3758
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:25,040
belief structure so i don't really want

3759
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:26,479
to put it on anybody

3760
02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:28,800
who's not ready for it uh because

3761
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:30,000
they're if you're

3762
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:32,000
you know what resists persist kind of

3763
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:33,040
thing you don't want to you don't want

3764
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:33,760
to

3765
02:24:42,070 --> 02:24:39,680
they'll only find fault with it or try

3766
02:24:44,309 --> 02:24:42,080
to pick it apart and i'm not

3767
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:44,319
i honestly say there is there's very

3768
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,680
limited science out there

3769
02:24:49,030 --> 02:24:47,520
and in daryl's documentary and i think

3770
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:49,040
he talked about on your show he did an

3771
02:24:51,590 --> 02:24:50,160
eeg meter

3772
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:51,600
and i showed that in my series as well

3773
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:53,920
where he's doing the brain waves

3774
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:55,760
yep he's the only guy that's done that i

3775
02:24:58,230 --> 02:24:56,800
plan to do that with some of the other

3776
02:25:00,550 --> 02:24:58,240
channelers in the future

3777
02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:00,560
but really that's the only real science

3778
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:02,000
we have on this

3779
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:04,000
other than that it's you know looking at

3780
02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:05,280
ancient traditions

3781
02:25:10,150 --> 02:25:08,720
from shamanism uh to other you know

3782
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:10,160
channeling is not a new thing we've had

3783
02:25:14,870 --> 02:25:12,479
generals throughout the history of time

3784
02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:14,880
um and automatic writing you know

3785
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:16,800
conversations with god neil donald wash

3786
02:25:20,630 --> 02:25:18,000
like this is

3787
02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:20,640
a big part of our our collective

3788
02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:22,000
consciousness and we are paying

3789
02:25:25,110 --> 02:25:24,560
attention you know you have um many very

3790
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:25,120
famous

3791
02:25:29,349 --> 02:25:26,960
channelers out there and people are the

3792
02:25:33,030 --> 02:25:29,359
youtube videos you can just look at it

3793
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:33,040
look at them but um to take it seriously

3794
02:25:37,750 --> 02:25:34,880
it's really about what's being said

3795
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:37,760
do does it resonate does it serve you

3796
02:25:40,870 --> 02:25:39,280
does it serve your belief system

3797
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,880
this is another tool that i've learned

3798
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:42,960
from from the bachelor materials

3799
02:25:49,510 --> 02:25:46,479
uh if it if it's not serving you then

3800
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:49,520
get rid of it so if the message is and

3801
02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:51,040
if the idea of channeling

3802
02:25:54,230 --> 02:25:53,439
is not your thing you know what it

3803
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:54,240
doesn't

3804
02:25:57,830 --> 02:25:56,000
you you're you're fighting the wrong

3805
02:25:59,270 --> 02:25:57,840
fight and i don't need to be fighting

3806
02:26:02,790 --> 02:25:59,280
that fight either it's like

3807
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:02,800
go go get some other material go seek

3808
02:26:08,070 --> 02:26:06,319
uh you know watch the other shows that

3809
02:26:09,590 --> 02:26:08,080
of the other guests that you have on you

3810
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:09,600
know listen to jim's story

3811
02:26:14,389 --> 02:26:12,640
for me i fell into this i got it

3812
02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:14,399
i've worked my way up to it because i

3813
02:26:17,830 --> 02:26:16,640
had sought out all the other information

3814
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:17,840
from all the

3815
02:26:22,630 --> 02:26:20,800
um researchers and i got to a point

3816
02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:22,640
where i couldn't go any further

3817
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:25,280
because the there was the puzzle pieces

3818
02:26:28,469 --> 02:26:27,200
i had all the puzzle pieces i could but

3819
02:26:30,070 --> 02:26:28,479
there's still a lot of holes and i

3820
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:30,080
didn't have the complete picture

3821
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:32,560
and when at one of those media meetup

3822
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:34,000
groups the one one of the ones that you

3823
02:26:37,190 --> 02:26:34,800
came to

3824
02:26:38,790 --> 02:26:37,200
wendy kennedy a channeler she was in

3825
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:38,800
santa monica she was there and

3826
02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:40,080
afterwards we were chatting

3827
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,760
and she's you know i was talking about

3828
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:43,840
the abduction scenario and

3829
02:26:48,389 --> 02:26:46,000
and what's going on there and she said

3830
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,399
uh it's a soul contract

3831
02:26:52,230 --> 02:26:51,120
and that was like a magic light bulb

3832
02:26:55,510 --> 02:26:52,240
because i had talked to

3833
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:55,520
probably by that time a hundred or so uh

3834
02:26:59,830 --> 02:26:58,160
abductees and hearing all their

3835
02:27:01,429 --> 02:26:59,840
experiences and the

3836
02:27:03,190 --> 02:27:01,439
trauma and some of them good some of

3837
02:27:04,550 --> 02:27:03,200
them bad and different things but when i

3838
02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:04,560
heard from wendy kennedy

3839
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:06,880
it's a soul contract i was like that's

3840
02:27:10,790 --> 02:27:08,240
the missing piece

3841
02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:10,800
that's that's what i need to follow and

3842
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:12,000
i followed that stream

3843
02:27:14,870 --> 02:27:13,200
and then when i started talking to these

3844
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:14,880
channelers they started filling in all

3845
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:16,000
the other missing pieces

3846
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:19,439
of the puzzle to this bigger

3847
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:21,600
puzzle that i had started working on

3848
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:23,920
through all my other research in ufology

3849
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,160
and to date i'd still feel like this is

3850
02:27:29,990 --> 02:27:28,319
the most complete puzzle that i can or

3851
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:30,000
the complete

3852
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:32,000
amount of puzzle pieces that i can

3853
02:27:36,550 --> 02:27:33,120
assemble

3854
02:27:39,510 --> 02:27:36,560
with what we have available to us um

3855
02:27:39,910 --> 02:27:39,520
through you know through through through

3856
02:27:42,469 --> 02:27:39,920
our

3857
02:27:43,190 --> 02:27:42,479
you know modern technology and in

3858
02:27:45,429 --> 02:27:43,200
meeting people

3859
02:27:46,870 --> 02:27:45,439
and discussions and all this stuff uh

3860
02:27:49,270 --> 02:27:46,880
i'm not saying it's

3861
02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:49,280
the only puzzle the the most complete

3862
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:50,640
that

3863
02:27:56,150 --> 02:27:54,080
and in my research

3864
02:27:58,309 --> 02:27:56,160
this is what i've come to and and this

3865
02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:58,319
is what i'm sharing with the world

3866
02:28:02,550 --> 02:28:01,120
but i'm sure there's many other avenues

3867
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:02,560
and different

3868
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,080
total pieces that i still don't have

3869
02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:06,160
that other people may have

3870
02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,479
when i met adam apollo who you had on

3871
02:28:11,590 --> 02:28:10,080
the show

3872
02:28:13,349 --> 02:28:11,600
he seemed to have a lot of the puzzle

3873
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:13,359
pieces that i've been looking looking

3874
02:28:17,590 --> 02:28:16,720
towards uh as far as his unified matrix

3875
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:17,600
theory

3876
02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:19,920
um and and that really resonated with

3877
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:20,800
with me and

3878
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:23,439
and matched with a lot of the uh

3879
02:28:25,990 --> 02:28:24,640
research i've been doing

3880
02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:26,000
and the questions i've been asking the

3881
02:28:30,870 --> 02:28:27,840
eps when

3882
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:30,880
uh you know i get rob i get jane

3883
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:33,920
i get daryl i i

3884
02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:37,280
totally uh can digest

3885
02:28:41,830 --> 02:28:40,080
what is happening but you know like the

3886
02:28:43,510 --> 02:28:41,840
barber shop right no matter what that

3887
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:43,520
conversation is going down

3888
02:28:48,710 --> 02:28:46,319
in the ufo barber shop somebody walks in

3889
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:48,720
the door and brings up channeling

3890
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,800
that's one of the things that almost

3891
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:51,840
goes taboo

3892
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:55,439
even in the ufo community and then

3893
02:29:00,150 --> 02:28:58,399
even for me but then i you go and you

3894
02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:00,160
see

3895
02:29:07,750 --> 02:29:03,840
bashar and you hear bashar in person

3896
02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:07,760
and you go through that and you listen

3897
02:29:11,429 --> 02:29:10,479
there's something going on there i mean

3898
02:29:13,990 --> 02:29:11,439
something real

3899
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,000
something tangible and and we have to

3900
02:29:17,670 --> 02:29:16,080
back up and say okay you know what this

3901
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:17,680
is just something else

3902
02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:19,680
that we need to collectively just put in

3903
02:29:22,790 --> 02:29:20,800
the pot here

3904
02:29:24,870 --> 02:29:22,800
it's that miso soup that you were

3905
02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:24,880
referring to earlier

3906
02:29:27,990 --> 02:29:26,720
you know and i'm being very serious

3907
02:29:30,870 --> 02:29:28,000
about that

3908
02:29:31,590 --> 02:29:30,880
yeah yeah absolutely i agree i think i

3909
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:31,600
think it is

3910
02:29:36,150 --> 02:29:34,560
uh you know lee harris he he he's sort

3911
02:29:36,790 --> 02:29:36,160
of an intuitive channel he's been on the

3912
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:36,800
show

3913
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:43,200
you know disease but he he does a lot of

3914
02:29:46,150 --> 02:29:44,240
self-help work

3915
02:29:47,349 --> 02:29:46,160
and he's kind of like a tony robbins

3916
02:29:49,510 --> 02:29:47,359
kind of guy doing

3917
02:29:50,870 --> 02:29:49,520
doing public seminars but also

3918
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:50,880
independent you know

3919
02:29:55,270 --> 02:29:52,960
lifting people up right and even in that

3920
02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:55,280
world channeling is sort of a taboo

3921
02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:56,319
thing

3922
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:59,520
but he says he keeps the channeling it's

3923
02:30:04,230 --> 02:29:59,840
like

3924
02:30:07,750 --> 02:30:04,240
his tool belt he has to have that there

3925
02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:07,760
to ignore that would be a disservice to

3926
02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:10,000
to the other work that he's doing and i

3927
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:12,800
feel in a sense with ufology and for me

3928
02:30:15,910 --> 02:30:15,120
because that's kind of where i started

3929
02:30:19,270 --> 02:30:15,920
is

3930
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:19,280
a tool kit

3931
02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:20,880
it's like a part of my toolkit that i

3932
02:30:23,750 --> 02:30:22,560
that i can use to help me guide me

3933
02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:23,760
through this this other

3934
02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:25,840
you know the barber shop i can actually

3935
02:30:29,030 --> 02:30:27,359
do a better job talking at the

3936
02:30:31,750 --> 02:30:29,040
barbershop now because i have this

3937
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:31,760
toolkit obviously i can't always bring

3938
02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:32,080
that

3939
02:30:36,790 --> 02:30:35,200
tool into the shop and use it but

3940
02:30:38,389 --> 02:30:36,800
having it in the background is it's a

3941
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,399
it's a nice safe

3942
02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:40,720
uh thing that that helps me navigate

3943
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:42,560
this this wacky world we're in

3944
02:30:45,830 --> 02:30:45,520
yeah you're right years ago and when i

3945
02:30:49,830 --> 02:30:45,840
say

3946
02:30:53,030 --> 02:30:49,840
years ago i'm going like 10 15 years ago

3947
02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:53,040
i listened to bashar

3948
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:55,200
uh some bootleg tape that made it onto

3949
02:31:00,389 --> 02:30:56,800
the internet right

3950
02:31:01,990 --> 02:31:00,399
uh it was called bashar on time travel

3951
02:31:04,150 --> 02:31:02,000
i have gone back and tried to find it

3952
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:04,160
since then it's gone it's it's not out

3953
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:04,720
there

3954
02:31:12,710 --> 02:31:08,560
it was like 15 20 minutes long but

3955
02:31:17,030 --> 02:31:12,720
that 20 minutes of bashar on time travel

3956
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:17,040
was a game changer it blew my mind

3957
02:31:23,030 --> 02:31:20,800
and nothing in it had anything to do

3958
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:23,040
with any concept of time travel

3959
02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:25,840
but science or science fiction based

3960
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:27,040
that we've ever heard

3961
02:31:33,510 --> 02:31:30,640
uh today and and it really moved me

3962
02:31:35,750 --> 02:31:33,520
and so you have to go back and say where

3963
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:35,760
is that information coming from

3964
02:31:39,510 --> 02:31:37,840
you know this idea these concepts

3965
02:31:41,030 --> 02:31:39,520
because they're not based on anything

3966
02:31:43,349 --> 02:31:41,040
that has been discussed

3967
02:31:44,630 --> 02:31:43,359
in the past on this planet from any

3968
02:31:47,990 --> 02:31:44,640
intellectual

3969
02:31:49,670 --> 02:31:48,000
you know and and there's where we have

3970
02:31:51,429 --> 02:31:49,680
well i just sneezed i don't have

3971
02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:51,439
coronavirus

3972
02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:54,960
a mask yeah

3973
02:31:59,910 --> 02:31:58,080
i'm gonna find you i just sneezed came

3974
02:32:04,150 --> 02:31:59,920
out of nowhere see that was bashar

3975
02:32:06,710 --> 02:32:04,160
that was bishar reaching out

3976
02:32:07,590 --> 02:32:06,720
hey reuben reuben you are the best my

3977
02:32:09,190 --> 02:32:07,600
man i know you're

3978
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:09,200
you're working on a lot of projects and

3979
02:32:12,870 --> 02:32:10,880
you're getting some stuff ready i don't

3980
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:12,880
want to talk about that now but

3981
02:32:17,510 --> 02:32:16,000
uh when you uh get this finished you got

3982
02:32:19,190 --> 02:32:17,520
to come back on the show and let's do

3983
02:32:20,550 --> 02:32:19,200
the launch right here will you do that

3984
02:32:23,110 --> 02:32:20,560
for me oh

3985
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:23,120
that would be awesome yes love to reuben

3986
02:32:26,950 --> 02:32:24,880
you're the best man get back to work

3987
02:32:29,030 --> 02:32:26,960
you've got three albums to listen to

3988
02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:29,040
tomorrow all frank zappa

3989
02:32:32,389 --> 02:32:31,600
i'll talk to you the day after okay man

3990
02:32:35,830 --> 02:32:32,399
i'll talk to you

3991
02:32:38,190 --> 02:32:35,840
all right jimmy thank you ruben langdon

3992
02:32:39,910 --> 02:32:38,200
all of ruben's links are over at

3993
02:32:41,270 --> 02:32:39,920
jimmychurchradio.com we've got them

3994
02:32:43,030 --> 02:32:41,280
posted right there

3995
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:43,040
and i know the project that he is

3996
02:32:47,510 --> 02:32:44,800
working on right now and i'm very

3997
02:32:48,469 --> 02:32:47,520
excited about what he's about to drop on

3998
02:32:50,550 --> 02:32:48,479
all of us

3999
02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:50,560
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4008
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02:33:13,030 --> 02:33:10,640
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4012
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4013
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4014
02:33:21,670 --> 02:33:20,960
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4015
02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:21,680
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4016
02:33:25,030 --> 02:33:23,439
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4018
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:26,960
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4019
02:33:33,110 --> 02:33:30,080
night right here on this very program

4020
02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:33,120
jim peniston until then

4021
02:33:48,280 --> 02:33:36,319
i want everybody to be safe

4022
02:34:03,430 --> 02:33:48,290
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